Paladins/Rangers using cleric/druid items

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:13 pm

I like not having Paladins and Rangers casting spells, but what about allowing them to use items such as wands and staves?

Anyone do it this way?
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SavageRobby · Post by **SavageRobby** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:24 pm

Nope.

Although, I may add back Paladin spells, at which point ... naw, probably still a big no on the wands/staves.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:31 pm

I wouldn't be prone to allowing it either. Even if I did, I *might* go that way with the Paladin, but definitely not the ranger. I much prefer the C&C, no spells ranger who is more of a wilderness warrior and less of a sword swinging druid. Allowing him to use druidical items would push him back towards the camp of a sword swinging druid to me.

phadeout · Post by **phadeout** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:38 pm

DangerDwarf wrote:
I wouldn't be prone to allowing it either. Even if I did, I *might* go that way with the Paladin, but definitely not the ranger. I much prefer the C&C, no spells ranger who is more of a wilderness warrior and less of a sword swinging druid. Allowing him to use druidical items would push him back towards the camp of a sword swinging druid to me.

Ditto. I never liked how the Ranger got spells, though the Paladin is OK that way.

Want a sword swinging druid? Easy:

Fighter/Druid
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:46 am

Yeah, but isn't a spell casting paladin just a sword swinging cleric.

As to Tree's original question, I don't see where it would break the game. Heck, you could even make the paladin/ranger roll a Wis check or something to activate the magic in the staff/wand.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:57 am

Not sure how many staves exist for a cleric or druid that isn't a weapon. Ranger and paladin can use those... but not the spellcasting unless the thing says they can.

Wands and rods: not a single wand exists in my games for divine magic (the gods do not allow their power to be trapped thusly.)

Other divinely-empowered items: depends on what it does, but in general... if its protective: yes; if its offensive: no; if its healing: up to 3rd level spells - yes, otherwise - no; if its miscellaneous: depends on per ability

BtB: wands and items that cast spells: no.

Staves: as a weapon: yes.

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:03 am

Rigon wrote:
Yeah, but isn't a spell casting paladin just a sword swinging cleric.

As to Tree's original question, I don't see where it would break the game. Heck, you could even make the paladin/ranger roll a Wis check or something to activate the magic in the staff/wand.

R-

Thats actually one option I was considering.

Plus Paladins ""technically" are Spellcasters, since they do Lay on Hands, Cure Disease, and the 12th level Spell, so allowing them to use items isn't a big stretch.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:38 pm

Rigon wrote:
Yeah, but isn't a spell casting paladin just a sword swinging cleric.

Yeah, but I'm cool with that. A Paladin should be associated with religion and clerics and church and such. He's a more martially oriented religious figure.

But, when I play a ranger I don't want to be a martially oriented tree hugger. I wanna be a wilderness scout type. Not an eco warrior.
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:25 am

DangerDwarf wrote:
Yeah, but I'm cool with that. A Paladin should be associated with religion and clerics and church and such. He's a more martially oriented religious figure.

But, when I play a ranger I don't want to be a martially oriented tree hugger. I wanna be a wilderness scout type. Not an eco warrior.
/end hijack

Cool enough, DD.

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