Who here has the True 20 rules?

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:04 pm

If you do, would you be interested in brainstorming class building with me? Meaning turn the True 20 class building rules/mechanics into a tool box with which to custom build character classes for C&C?
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:29 pm

I have them. But I haven't looked at the rules closely enough to put together what your suggesting.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:09 pm

gideon_thorne wrote:
I have them. But I haven't looked at the rules closely enough to put together what your suggesting.

Yeah, plus I imagine/hope that the CKG will provide a framework for doing this.

So eventually, what I am hoping to be able to do, after the CKG is out, is appoint XP values to various feats in True20, and allow those feats to be used to build a classes "class abilities", to the point where I hope it will allow custom classes to be built in 10 minutes or less.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:56 pm

I see no reason, since I have my Deconstruction, Part II, which assigns XP values to some odd 500 feats or so.... so any other feat would just be a matter of finding something similar and doing something similar.

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:19 pm

Treebore wrote:
So eventually, what I am hoping to be able to do, after the CKG is out, is appoint XP values to various feats in True20, and allow those feats to be used to build a classes "class abilities", to the point where I hope it will allow custom classes to be built in 10 minutes or less.

Why not use whats in the M&T on page 88 under magic item creation?

No reason why the xp cost method therein couldn't be used to mix and match class and feat abilities just as effectively as magic item cost?
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:10 pm

serleran wrote:
I see no reason, since I have my Deconstruction, Part II, which assigns XP values to some odd 500 feats or so.... so any other feat would just be a matter of finding something similar and doing something similar.

Well if this document is in the CKG it sounds like you have already done the work for me.
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Turanil · Post by **Turanil** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:12 am

Treebore wrote:
If you do, would you be interested in brainstorming class building with me? Meaning turn the True 20 class building rules/mechanics into a tool box with which to custom build character classes for C&C?

I have almost all the True20 stuff. What I see, is to create 3 C&C-like classes: Warrior, Expert, Adept, that are done with hit-points and BtH and the same EPP for the three. Then, the classes get 1 feat per level as in True20; just need to convert these feats into C&C feats, also using d20 as a guide. And of course, inspiration can be taken from d20UA, which has three similar generic classes.
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danbuter · Post by **danbuter** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:08 pm

If you have the 2e DMG, it has one of the best class-creation systems ever. And I find moving a 2e class to CnC to be pretty easy.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:34 pm

danbuter wrote:
If you have the 2e DMG, it has one of the best class-creation systems ever. And I find moving a 2e class to CnC to be pretty easy.

True, I had forgotten that.
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Emryys · Post by **Emryys** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:48 pm

Turanil wrote:
...classes get 1 feat per level as in True20; just need to convert these feats into C&C feats, also using d20 as a guide.

I also have True20 and am thinking of converting the feats... easier since there are no Aoo's...

Pretty much gonna graft on SWSE skills...
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:36 pm

danbuter wrote:
If you have the 2e DMG, it has one of the best class-creation systems ever. And I find moving a 2e class to CnC to be pretty easy.

Yeah, the class creation rules in the DMG were pretty sweet. My longest played 2nd Edition character was a lone wolf thief created using those rules. He was fun as hell.

pactmaster · Post by **pactmaster** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:16 pm

I run a True20 Yahoogroup here: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/true20/

You may feel free to post any ideas regarding T20/C&C options there.

Emryys · Post by **Emryys** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:39 am

pactmaster wrote:
I run a True20 Yahoogroup here: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/true20/

You may feel free to post any ideas regarding T20/C&C options there.

I just took you up on the offer...
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