Troll Lord Games

Hello to all,

I am thinking about trying C&C and was wondering is the info in the Boxed set the same as the books or is it a bit watered down? It seems like a screamin' deal to just buy the boxed set.

Thanks

Jai

Hello and Welcome!

The box set is a complete game, but simplified. It has 4 classes (Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, Rogue) and three demi-human races (Dwarf, Elf, Halfling).

The hardbacks give you 13 classes (the above 4 plus Ranger, Druid, Illusionist, Barbarian, Monk, Assassin, Paladin, Knight & Bard), more races (Half Elf, Half Orc, Gnome) and a wider list of spells and abilities.

The box set is fine, and actually preferred if you're more of a Very-Rules-Light kinda person. The box set carries you to level 100 I think, and is certainly a complete game.

But if you want more details and crunchy bits, you might want to hardbacks.
Good Luck!

Mike
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Don't forget the free rules download to get a good taste fo things before you spend even more.
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We likes him spending more, thank you.

Welcome, Shinydemon in the middle of the road. Can we play you the best song in the world?

Seriously, though, the box set can be thought of like this -- D&D "basic" (but not an exact comparison) and the hardcovers are AD&D.

Oh, and, wow! Level 100? I gotta reads that again...

serleran wrote:
We likes him spending more, thank you.

Welcome, Shinydemon in the middle of the road. Can we play you the best song in the world?

If you can't, I'll eat you soul...

So what does a guy need to plat the complete rules?

Jai

Two books are considered required... the Player's Handbook and the Monsters & Treasure Guide.

That's it!

M
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either it hasn't hit the 12th day or its a done deal. I tried.

Still there:
http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/12days_of_xmas.html
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Ywa, I had a lapse of stupid.... I'm ok now.

...of course, if you're trying to get your group into playing, only the Gm (Castle Keeper) needs Monsters & Treasures. But more purchases are better of course.
Serl, maybe its just my copy. But I'm a hardass CK and don't let players get over 60th level.
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All,

thanks for the input. Turns out, its all so cheap I bought the PHB, M&T, and the boxed set for spur of the moment games. Now the waiting..............
Jai

Shinydemon wrote:
All,

thanks for the input. Turns out, its all so cheap I bought the PHB, M&T, and the boxed set for spur of the moment games. Now the waiting..............
Jai

Man, you are in for soooo much fun!!!!!

Check out the online games here as well if you can't get a group started right away.

Fuuuunnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, Mike, the steelness of your buns is not something I need in my third eye, alright? Now I need to get a bristle, spoon, and some Crisco to get that out.

Butt, back on topic, you can't go wrong with whatever you decided to get, for the price its going for currently. Even if you don't play it exactly as written... remember, C&C was meant to be an inspiration and "game DNA" thing. Do what you will.

Welcome Shinydemon.

I love the C&C boxed set . . great way to start a game and get a feel for the system. Wow, it occurs to me that I purchased the boxed set 3 years ago at this time!!
Enjoy the game!
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[quote="serleran"]Hey, Mike, the steelness of your buns is not something I need in my third eye, alright? Now I need to get a bristle, spoon, and some Crisco to get that out.

...Eh, it was a turn of phrase Serl! Keep your Crisco to yourself!
Anyway, Shinydemon....let us know if you have questions and which set you prefer. To date I still prefer the Box set with a few extra classes (like the Knight, Bard & Ranger) but my wife prefers the PHB so in the end that's what gets run out here!
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I'm really looking forward to getting the books. It all seem totally up my alley.
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Shinydemon wrote:
Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy.

And bad beer is proof that God can be a real [expletive deleted].

My package arrived today. PHB. M&T, and the collectors box. Its exactly what I expected and more. Next I need to find an online game to play. Anyone have a free space?

Jai
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Shinydemon wrote:
Anyone have a free space?

Jai

I don't, but others might.
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In further review, I am totally hooked. C&C is exactly what I have been looking for.

I would like to add that THE ART ROCKS!!!!! Well done Mr. Thorne/Bradley and crew.

Shiny
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