Something we need to talk about...

[Jonathan of White Haven]

serleran wrote:
Well, I try to answer questions as fast as I possibly can, but I like to argue, too... so, umm, I'm definitely not the right guy for "sage." Though, I do wonder who would know more about the monsters... hehe.

Many of your answers are quite straightforward, while others tend to, shall we say, wend along languidly, taking in the scenic route, until finally arriving at the destination.
And I doubt there would be many (very few, indeed) who would know more about the monsters.
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[moriarty777]

Fiffergrund wrote:
How about this:

I set up a new subforum under the Rules category, for official questions and answers. Anyone can post a question, but only those with "authority" can post responses. Naturally, this would be the Trolls, GT, Serleran, myself, Sieg, and a few others that can be considered experts on the material.

In our answers, we'd try to keep opinion out of it and stick to the letter whenever possible, informed by our understanding of the development of the rules.

It wouldn't be perfect - something I posted could be overridden by Steve, for example, but naturally his word and Davis's word would be surpreme. The rest of us would be able to cover most of the stuff.

Does this sound palatable?

Hmm, though I see the reasoning for this, I find it kinda skews things a bit. In my experience, I've rather enjoyed the feedback and input from my fellow Crusaders. It's only been recently that this hasn't helped but rather hindered the process.

What I'd like to see is a collection of FAQs that result from the regular posts maybe chosen by the those select people set up with answers as a Sticky. That way, you can have the best of both of worlds so to speak.

In both cases, it does mean more involvement from those selected... which for Serl and GT won't be an issue!
M
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[serleran]

Absolutement!

[Jonathan of White Haven]

Fiffergrund wrote:
How about this:

I set up a new subforum under the Rules category, for official questions and answers. Anyone can post a question, but only those with "authority" can post responses. Naturally, this would be the Trolls, GT, Serleran, myself, Sieg, and a few others that can be considered experts on the material.

In our answers, we'd try to keep opinion out of it and stick to the letter whenever possible, informed by our understanding of the development of the rules.

It wouldn't be perfect - something I posted could be overridden by Steve, for example, but naturally his word and Davis's word would be surpreme. The rest of us would be able to cover most of the stuff.

Does this sound palatable?

I'm not seeing it, or perhaps I need to log out and re-log in order to find the new sub-forum. I did refresh the main page and the "Rules, Laws, Chaos" page, yet it remains invisiible to me. Does it have a recognizable title?

I think it's a capital idea. And while I know Steve's handle here, I wouldn't recognize Davis' handle.

Thanks Fiff!
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[serleran]

Davis is usually cleaverthepit

[gideon_thorne]

Jonathan of White Haven wrote:
I'm not seeing it, or perhaps I need to log out and re-log in order to find the new sub-forum. I did refresh the main page and the "Rules, Laws, Chaos" page, yet it remains invisiible to me. Does it have a recognizable title?

I think it's a capital idea. And while I know Steve's handle here, I wouldn't recognize Davis' handle.

Thanks Fiff!

He hasn't set it yet, is why.
Davis is Cleaverthepit on these boards. He blows through occasionally, and might answer a question or two. But good luck getting an official answer out of him. Steve can't even do that.
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[Fiffergrund]

moriarty777 wrote:
What I'd like to see is a collection of FAQs that result from the regular posts maybe chosen by the those select people set up with answers as a Sticky. That way, you can have the best of both of worlds so to speak.

I can see the appeal of this, but I'm not sure that a sticky thread is the best way to go for this. I can see that being more difficult to administer and more difficult to browse than a separate forum.

From my point of view, I'd say that if you wish to tap the opinions of your fellow Crusaders, avoid that forum. That place would just be for anyone interested in a more "official" viewpoint. It wouldn't invalidate anything posted here already - simply provide a level of "authority" for those who need it.
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[Fiffergrund]

I've already created the forum. I just need to unlock it.

It's not a sub-forum of this one, unfortunately, but another separate C&C forum. Look right under "Rules Laws Chaos" in the C&C section.

The moderators listed are just my first stab at authoritative answer people. The mods are the only ones that can respond to a thread. If I had a way to let the OP respond, I would, but it doesn't allow me that kind of control. As it is, the mods can debate it and the OP can send a PM if they want to elaborate.

I figure there's no harm in seeing how it goes, so I'll activate it. If Steve or Davis want it closed, no problem there either.
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[Jonathan of White Haven]

moriarty777 wrote:
Hmm, though I see the reasoning for this, I find it kinda skews things a bit. In my experience, I've rather enjoyed the feedback and input from my fellow Crusaders. It's only been recently that this hasn't helped but rather hindered the process.

What I'd like to see is a collection of FAQs that result from the regular posts maybe chosen by the those select people set up with answers as a Sticky. That way, you can have the best of both of worlds so to speak.

In both cases, it does mean more involvement from those selected... which for Serl and GT won't be an issue!
M

I do know that other sites (game-related or not) have FAQs available, though many tend to not be updated very often, answer only general questions, and if they include links, sometimes those links break or disappear. And detailing some poor, benighted person to sift through the however many pages of existing "Rules, Laws, Chaos" posts would be daunting, indeed.

Peter seems to have quite a bit of time on his hands, though...
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[Jonathan of White Haven]

serleran wrote:
Davis is usually cleaverthepit

Cleaverthepit was one of my mental guesses. I should have expected it.
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[skathros]

Matthew wrote:
This is one of the key things that makes Castles & Crusades different from D20. When I ask a question on the boards, I'm generally not given an 'official' answer, but rather a discussion of the pros and cons of doing X, Y and Z. I prefer it that way, but I can appreciate that not everyone does.

For me, this is the way things were always done. Coming from B/X D&D, it became second nature to come up with a rule on the fly at the game table. I prefer my games that way as opposed to games with rules for everything.

[Jonathan of White Haven]

Fiffergrund wrote:
I've already created the forum. I just need to unlock it.

It's not a sub-forum of this one, unfortunately, but another separate C&C forum. Look right under "Rules Laws Chaos" in the C&C section.

The moderators listed are just my first stab at authoritative answer people. The mods are the only ones that can respond to a thread. If I had a way to let the OP respond, I would, but it doesn't allow me that kind of control. As it is, the mods can debate it and the OP can send a PM if they want to elaborate.

I figure there's no harm in seeing how it goes, so I'll activate it. If Steve or Davis want it closed, no problem there either.

I answered my own question by logging out, then re-logging. *Poof!*, it appeared in the forum list ("Keeper Advice") right under the main "Rules" forum.

Thanks again, Fiff. I think it'll be a great addition.
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[Balthock]

Fiffergrund wrote:
How about this:

I set up a new subforum under the Rules category, for official questions and answers. Anyone can post a question, but only those with "authority" can post responses. Naturally, this would be the Trolls, GT, Serleran, myself, Sieg, and a few others that can be considered experts on the material.

In our answers, we'd try to keep opinion out of it and stick to the letter whenever possible, informed by our understanding of the development of the rules.

It wouldn't be perfect - something I posted could be overridden by Steve, for example, but naturally his word and Davis's word would be surpreme. The rest of us would be able to cover most of the stuff.

Does this sound palatable?

That would be terrific. That's exactly what I was hoping for.

I very much enjoy and benefit from the various house-rules, and different methods or interpretations, but even those should be based on a clear explanation and, if possible, reason for the way it finally written. If a rule was left open, for 'personalization', great! Simple answer, we did it that way so you could decide how YOU want to do it. Here's a suggestion.

Thanks ever so,

Scott
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[serleran]

Muahaha, now I'll have a place to be as terse as I want. Muahaha.

[seskis281]

serleran wrote:
Muahaha, now I'll have a place to be as terse as I want. Muahaha.

Doh.

What fresh hell hath we wrought!?!?

Seriously, I think the new sub-forum is an excellent idea and hope it helps streamline responses that don't get caught up in misperceived emotional reactions -

Even from gits like me. (No, not British.... just always wanted to refer to myself as a "git.")

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[moriarty777]

skathros wrote:
For me, this is the way things were always done. Coming from B/X D&D, it became second nature to come up with a rule on the fly at the game table. I prefer my games that way as opposed to games with rules for everything.

I like logic... I like consistency... but I have to agree with both of you and part of me doesn't understand.

For clarity's sake, I'm sure it (the new subforum) will be interesting and as long as it sticks with the letter and intent of the rule. Give the people what they want I guess.

M
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[Balthock]

serleran wrote:
Muahaha, now I'll have a place to be as terse as I want. Muahaha.

You're enjoying that way too much!
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[Jonathan of White Haven]

seskis281 wrote:
Seriously, I think the new sub-forum is an excellent idea and hope it helps streamline responses that don't get caught up in misperceived emotional reactions -

Even from gits like me. (No, not British.... just always wanted to refer to myself as a "git.")

We *could* petition the Troll Lords to award you the title of "Official Git". Put it where the new "post counter" bar lives. Kinda like Treebore's new title.
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[Zudrak]

Jonathan of White Haven wrote:
Many of your answers are quite straightforward, while others tend to, shall we say, wend along languidly, taking in the scenic route, until finally arriving at the destination.
And I doubt there would be many (very few, indeed) who would know more about the monsters.

I resemble that (bolded) remark.
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[Balthock]

gideon_thorne wrote:
There ya go folks.

What I suggest people do is this. Might come up with various short questions that are the most pressing and that can serve as a basis for a few articles.

The Logic of XP.

How, why and when critters add their HD.

Im sure folks can think of others.

Just thinking out loud here, but I'd really like to see this become a fixture in the magazine.

Maybe the Trolls could set up a user in the forums for PMs AND a separate email address on the website so that these questions could be sent to a specific account. That way they wouldn't get lost in the shuffle.

Fiff has volunteered to get this started, Thanks! I think this could be a really good thing to start and continue. It also gives me an excuse to subscribe to the magazine.
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[gideon_thorne]

skerns wrote:
Maybe the Trolls could set up a user in the forums for PMs AND a separate email address on the website so that these questions could be sent to a specific account. That way they wouldn't get lost in the shuffle.

Fiff has volunteered to get this started, Thanks! I think this could be a really good thing to start and continue. It also gives me an excuse to subscribe to the magazine.

Easy. Send em to Fiff.
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[Balthock]

gideon_thorne wrote:
Easy. Send em to Fiff.

Works for me!!! Hope you're ready, Fiff!!!
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[nittanytbone14]

Hey Trolls,

Thanks for opening up the new forum! I find it really helpful when several of you weigh in on some of the interesting topics that are being posted. Thanks for your attentive and timely responses.

[Fiffergrund]

You're welcome. Serleran is an overachiever, but he's also right most of the time, so he's doing most of the replying.
That'll change, though. Even Ser will miss a few.
My preference is that our registered forum members use the Keeper Advice forum, so that there are not two different places for these questions (my e-mail and the forum). If the Crusader column happens (gotta check with Mr. James Ward ) then it'll be a combination of forum questions and eventually those sent directly to me or to the magazine.
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[Jonathan of White Haven]

Fiffergrund wrote:
You're welcome. Serleran is an overachiever, but he's also right most of the time, so he's doing most of the replying.
That'll change, though. Even Ser will miss a few.
My preference is that our registered forum members use the Keeper Advice forum, so that there are not two different places for these questions (my e-mail and the forum). If the Crusader column happens (gotta check with Mr. James Ward ) then it'll be a combination of forum questions and eventually those sent directly to me or to the magazine.

Presuming that Mr. Ward goes along with the idea for a "rules Q&A" column in The Crusader, perhaps some of the initial knotty problem questions could be taken from this forum. I have no doubt that there have been any number of questions answered and debated over the past couple of years that are still relevant, especially to C&C newcomers.
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[serleran]

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That'll change, though. Even Ser will miss a few.

Quite right, and he might even not answer on purpose, because of whatever reason (usually trying to find the right way of saying something so it makes sense to anyone outside serleran's head.)

[Traveller]

If I p*i*k it with a pin, does it not "leak"?
(With apologies to Lt. Cmdr. Data)
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[Kos]

I find the different suggestions helpfull...