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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:24 am

I wonder what would be the effect if a character has a ring of regeneration on each hand, and then the character is cut in half?
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csperkins1970 · Post by **csperkins1970** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:30 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
I wonder what would be the effect if a character has a ring of regeneration on each hand, and then the character is cut in half?

I'd look at the old AD&D clone spell for the answer to that...
This spell creates a duplicate of a person. This clone is in all respects the duplicate of the individual, complete to the level of experience, memories, etc. However, the duplicate is the person, so that if the original and a duplicate exist at the same time, each knows of the other's existence; and the original person and the clone will each desire to do away with the other, for such an alter-ego is unbearable to both. If one cannot destroy the other, one (95%) will go insane (75% likely to be the clone) and destroy itself, or possibly (5%) both will become mad and commit suicide. These probabilities will occur within 1 week of the dual existence. The material component of the spell is a small piece of the flesh of the person to be duplicated. Note that the clone will become the person as he or she existed at the time at which the flesh was taken, and all subsequent knowledge, experience, etc. will be totally unknown to the clone. Also, the clone will be a physical duplicate, and possessions of the original are another matter entirely.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:38 am

Each half would regenerate enough for the body to be reformed, and then the character would heal 2 HP / round -- it would not result in the creation of two separate characters. Nothing in C&C, except some oozes, allow for "regen farming."
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csperkins1970 · Post by **csperkins1970** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:53 am

serleran wrote:
Each half would regenerate enough for the body to be reformed, and then the character would heal 2 HP / round -- it would not result in the creation of two separate characters. Nothing in C&C, except some oozes, allow for "regen farming."

I agree... I was just going for an old-school Gygaxian twist on Peter's particular pondering.

ghostSmacker · Post by **ghostSmacker** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:34 am

Humans aren't bilaterally symmetrical with regards to their internal organs. I would say the left half half (with the heart - unless you deem the gall bladder is more important), would be dominant and regenerate as the 'original'.

Personally I would also allow the other half to regenerate but I would turn it into a withered twin that has a dodgy ticker and an over active gall bladder. It follows the original character everywhere moaning about its ailments, but refuses to give back the other ring of regeneration, for removal would lead to rapid withering and death.

Eventually the character would be either driven mad or be forced to commit a desperate act of clonicide. Either would be suitable punishment for tampering with the fundamental forces of life, hogging all the good magic items and walking face first into a giant saw blade.

CKDad · Post by **CKDad** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:50 pm

Which regenerated one would have the goatee?
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:52 pm

I'd have the two halves do a deathmatch over favored organs.

Lord Tryon · Post by **Lord Tryon** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:54 pm

I am not sure but I would say both half regenerate but the soul of the body can only reside in one of them so the other half would come back souless as a type of undead or animated type creature which would desire to destroy the PC.

CKDad · Post by **CKDad** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:03 pm

Lord Tryon wrote:
I am not sure but I would say both half regenerate but the soul of the body can only reside in one of them so the other half would come back souless as a type of undead or animated type creature which would desire to destroy the PC.

Ah, like a sort of revenant. That's an intriguing take.

And a potential adventure seed. Hmm...
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ghostSmacker · Post by **ghostSmacker** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:31 pm

CKDad wrote:
Which regenerated one would have the goatee?

Obviously the souless half would have the goatee, like evil Knight Rider. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:56 pm

I'd allow one to regenerate as the character and another one to become some disfigured, disgusting creature bent on the destruction of the PC.

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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:02 pm

I'm not so sure about that. I don't have the rules in front of me, but wouldn't it regenerate the whole body from whatever remains?
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:14 pm

Deogolf wrote:
I'm not so sure about that. I don't have the rules in front of me, but wouldn't it regenerate the whole body from whatever remains?

*chuckles* This is why, in an idle moment, I put up a poser of a question just for fun, as to what would occur if the character, in the highly unlikely event, ended up with a ring of regeneration on each hand.

Would each ring then operate independently and create two new beings?
An odd sort of Horcrux?
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Maliki · Post by **Maliki** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:37 pm

I think both rings would function, so you would have two complete, intact bodies, but as Lord Tryon pointed out, the soul would only be in one of them, the other would be a lifeless body, not undead, at least not IMC.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:46 pm

Good Ash vs. Evil Ash.

Post by **Fiffergrund** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:53 pm

The way I'd do it is to say that ring effects don't stack. When both rings are worn, only one is working. The other is dormant. During the split second (pun intended) where the victim is lopped in half (that's one hell of a cut), the ring is still dormant. The active ring would kick in and regrow one half. The dormant ring remains dormant because when it comes time to be activated, it's on an inanimate object - the dead half of the body.

Another way is to say that all of the parts shuffle gruesomely together and reattach.
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