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Spell Book Experience Points - Help!

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Hey all - how should I award experience points for a recoved spell book?

It looks like a scroll is 100xp per spell level..... should I use that or should it be less or more.

I can see an argument thsat it is worth more XP as the the spells are already in the book- and I can see it going the othe way as well

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I'd simply treat it like a scroll. Particularly since it was written by a different wizard and would need study and such to translate and learn as if the discovering / recovering wizard had found a scroll to add to their own book IMO
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I'd give it XP equal to the highest level x 100 xp. So if there's 3rd level spells in it, award 300 xp. I can't think of any way to do it offhand that wouldn't be too high an XP value. If that's too low, make it highest level x 1000 xp. Do what makes ya happy, boss man.
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I don't give XPs for spell books. However, if I did, I wouldn't count is as scrolls because it isn't one. The spell has to be 'learned' and for it to be learned, it also has to be deciphered. A spell can't be used as a scroll from a spell book. If you want to ascribe a value of some sort, 100xp per spell level category would be what I'd go with. Therefore a spellbook that contains 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level spells would be worth 600xp total. Therefore the highest value I'd put on a spell book would be 4500xp.

But that's just me.

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I do not as I view the object as the treasure, which far outweighs any XP award -- I also do not consider it a magic item, and therefore, by strict reading of the rules, not necessarily subject to XP awarding (because, while it may have a great amount of non-monetary value, it is effectively worthless to anyone not able to read it.) So, then, it would only award XP if sold -- not a likely proposition, in my experience.

However, you could consider each spell contained as a scroll and award thereby.
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[quote="moriarty777"]I don't give XPs for spell books. However, if I did, I wouldn't count is as scrolls because it isn't one. The spell has to be 'learned' and for it to be learned, it also has to be deciphered. A spell can't be used as a scroll from a spell book. If you want to ascribe a value of some sort, 100xp per spell level category would be what I'd go with. Therefore a spellbook that contains 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level spells would be worth 600xp total. Therefore the highest value I'd put on a spell book would be 4500xp.

But that's just me.

M[/quote]

I like that.
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moriarty777 wrote:
I don't give XPs for spell books. However, if I did, I wouldn't count is as scrolls because it isn't one. The spell has to be 'learned' and for it to be learned, it also has to be deciphered. A spell can't be used as a scroll from a spell book. If you want to ascribe a value of some sort, 100xp per spell level category would be what I'd go with. Therefore a spellbook that contains 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level spells would be worth 600xp total. Therefore the highest value I'd put on a spell book would be 4500xp.

But that's just me.

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Yeah that's not too bad, mort. I haven't given XP for spell books, either, but if I did, this would work pretty well.
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I do not as I view the object as the treasure, which far outweighs any XP award -- I also do not consider it a magic item, and therefore, by strict reading of the rules, not necessarily subject to XP awarding (because, while it may have a great amount of non-monetary value, it is effectively worthless to anyone not able to read it.) So, then, it would only award XP if sold -- not a likely proposition, in my experience.

However, you could consider each spell contained as a scroll and award thereby.
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serleran wrote:
I do not as I view the object as the treasure, which far outweighs any XP award -- I also do not consider it a magic item, and therefore, by strict reading of the rules, not necessarily subject to XP awarding (because, while it may have a great amount of non-monetary value, it is effectively worthless to anyone not able to read it.) So, then, it would only award XP if sold -- not a likely proposition, in my experience.

However, you could consider each spell contained as a scroll and award thereby.

In one of the HH modules, one of the items the party can acquire is a spellbook that contains *new* spells (ones not found in the PHB.) I decided to treat the spellbook as a set of scrolls--for XP purposes, if the players decide to keep the book itself. Of course, the wizard in the party could use Read Magic and Write Magic to transcribe those spells into her spellbook, if she so desires (and so dares.) Otherwise, they'll get whatever gold they can negotiate out of a prospective buyer.
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