Time to start looking for DCC 35

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:12 am

assuming you want it and don't have it yet. Which I do, bought it at GenCon. ITs a very good setting. Lots of solid classic elements, etc...

Anyways, if you've been wanting or may be interested in it, you should be able to find it now or very soon.

PDF is at drivethru.

Maliki · Post by **Maliki** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:01 am

This sounds really good, but it will have to wait, too many real life bills right now.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:09 am

Is it a C&C conversion mod? Otherwise, I don't think I need to get it. I've now got lots of excellent stuff to run for my campaign!
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:45 am

It has mods in it, two fo them, but they are 3E. The main thing is that this is the "Mystara/Known World" like campaign setting that Goodman is putting out.

So unless your interested in setting material there is no real reason to look at/get this.

Emryys · Post by **Emryys** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:45 am

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PeelSeel2 · Post by **PeelSeel2** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 am

I got my pre-order box in on Saturday. It is Awesome!! The box is heavy duty enough to hit players with and make it hurt. The Setting, background, and flavor of the work is Greyhawk/Mystara.

Their are not any extra rules, no new classes, and the new mosnters, magic, and items presented pose no conversion problems. The major NPC's are given a rough outline (Alignment, Race, Class(es), ability scores, and Level). Their backgrounds, however, are FULL of flavor. They are left for the DM to work up, which is awesome. You could work them up in C&C or D&D just as easy. Ok, much easier for C&C

This setting is as rules neutral as one can get. Except for the modules, which is fine. The modules are seperate from the main work, which is nice.

The History and Countries are detailed to the right amount IMHO. Not too much to stifle creativity and the general butchering of whats presented.

The maps are the finest I have seen for a fantasy setting. I am thinking about really geeking out and bringing mine down to an art gallery to have them mounted and framed. Then I will feel right using them. Until then, they will remain in the box.

The mounting of maps would be an AWESOME addition to my gaming room. If I am going to go that far, however, I will get Greyhawk and Zagyg mounted too.

I do not know if I will use this, as my campaign world of The Cresant has been having flavoring for the last three years, but I am definitely going to steal a bunch of stuff.

A very worthwhile product.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:54 pm

There is some seriously good stuff to be found in DCC WORLD (as I like to call it.) Although it is made for the v3.5 game, I would say that the setting itself is generic enough where no conversion is neccessary. The box set comes with 2 mods, both of which are obviously for the v3.5 game, but can be converted.

The maps in the box set are different then most every other fantasy project released on the market today. These maps are HUGE! The world maps, when layed out, are about 6' tall. H-U-G-E!!!

Yeah, DCC WORLD has a certain Mystara/Known World and a little bit of Greyhawk flavor to it, but it does not mimic either of these settings IMO. DCC WORLD stands on it's own as a relatively "generic" fantasy setting.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:18 pm

I agree it stands on its own.

As for the size of the pdf file, Joe had the map broken up into one page size files so that sections/parts can be printed out on one page. He is also looking into making and selling World Maps, and maybe a single pdf file so the whole huge map can get printed out by us at Kinko's or where ever.

Jyrdan Fairblade · Post by **Jyrdan Fairblade** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:38 pm

Hell yeah! I think I will bite the bullet and buy this darn thing. The force of the old school feel is strong with this one...

Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:43 pm

Well the campaign boxed set does sound very excellent, but a bit high priced for me. Heh, if I bought it, I'd feel compelled to chuck Aihrde and use the DCC setting.

Couldn't find the friggin' PDF on Drivethru - that site has terrible navigation/serch funtionality. I was just curious on PDF price, even though I usally don't buy them.

I'll have to look around and see if the DCC boxed set is discounted anywhere.

Thanks for all the good info on this.
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PeelSeel2 · Post by **PeelSeel2** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:07 am

I was grumbling about price when I preordered. That is the most I have paid for any single peice of gaming material since The Worlds Largest Dungeon. After I got it in my greedy little hands, however, I feel I got a good deal. It is appropriatly priced IMO.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:47 am

I agree the price is steep, but I'm betting Joe did the biggest print run he could afford AND have a decent expectation of selling enough to be a profitable product.

The smaller the print run the cost per unit gets higher and higher. I'm betting Joe did something like a 2 or 3,000 print run. Not a great "price break" with regards to printing.

I bought this for full price at GenCon, but Amazon should have it available in a couple of weeks.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:01 am

Its on my Christmas/birthday list. Not something that's ranked #1 to get, though. Looks nice, but I'm kind of dead to settings.... unless its got something so wholly new and different as to be fascinating, and I'm not talking sentient roboducks, either.

Korgoth · Post by **Korgoth** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 am

It looks pretty neat, but I don't know if I can justify the expense on something that's for 3.5 - if they had a C&C version I'd be right on it.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:31 am

Korgoth wrote:
It looks pretty neat, but I don't know if I can justify the expense on something that's for 3.5 - if they had a C&C version I'd be right on it.

Like someone mentioned earlier, the "setting" material has little 3E crunch, it is all flavor. Only the two modules are 3E crunchy, and they are low level enough to be easy to convert.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:55 pm

serleran wrote:
Its on my Christmas/birthday list. Not something that's ranked #1 to get, though. Looks nice, but I'm kind of dead to settings.... unless its got something so wholly new and different as to be fascinating, and I'm not talking sentient roboducks, either.

By no means is this a poor product, but there is really nothing groundbreaking in this setting, other then the amount of maps you get and the different artistic approach to them. The couple of mods are a great idea, and pretty good too, but is this setting still worth the $70.00US... ahh, I'm not quite sure. $50.00 for sure... ah, maybe. I don't know.

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rabindranath72 · Post by **rabindranath72** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:27 pm

Omote wrote:
By no means is this a poor product, but there is really nothing groundbreaking in this setting, other then the amount of maps you get and the different artistic approach to them. The couple of mods are a great idea, and pretty good too, but is this setting still wotrth the $70.00US... ahh, I'm not quite sure. $50.00 for sure... ah, maybe. I don't know.

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Well, if Monte Cook can sell Ptolus for 100+$, I think DCC is well worth the price. At least you have something with which you can work; with Ptolus, you cannot touch anything, otherwise the whole setting crumbles...the campaign is built exactly like the 3.x rules. Disconcerting

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:41 pm

While Ptolus is my not sort of thing, let's be fair and say right now that the DCC#35 is nowhere near the level of production and information that you get with Ptolus. Ptolus, IMO is justified with their price point because of the sheer volume of support and pured ata that you get.

DCC#35 is neat, but I'm just not quite convinced that what you get is worth the $70.00. YES, I applaud GG for putting out this monster, and purchased mine for full price right along with the other fans at GenCon... there is just somthing (what that is I'm not fully sure) that is not all that spectactular about DCC#35.

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naturaltwenty · Post by **naturaltwenty** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:48 pm

I picked up DCC 35 at GenCon this year. My goal is to run it with 3.5 but only, and I mean only, the core books (Monster Manuals 2-x can be used). This will limit the amount of overkill on all the extra feats.

My C&C stuff uses BECMI, 1st, and 2nd edition AD&D material only so it won't overlap.

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Korgoth · Post by **Korgoth** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:24 pm

Treebore wrote:
Like someone mentioned earlier, the "setting" material has little 3E crunch, it is all flavor. Only the two modules are 3E crunchy, and they are low level enough to be easy to convert.

I'm sure that's true, but I just can't bring myself to drop $70 on something that I know ahead of time I'm going to have to monkey with.
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naturaltwenty · Post by **naturaltwenty** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:02 pm

There are a couple reasons why I think it's spectacular.

1. Nostalgia value. This box hearkens back to the WoGH folio and boxed set. It is not as overarching and indepth as some of the Forgotten Realms products and allows me to be the master of my domain.

2. Boxed sets are just cool. I love boxed sets. I don't know if it's another nostalgia set but my old bookshelves were filled with boxed sets, Star Frontiers, Gamma World, Runequest, Battlesystem, Marvel Superheroes (man did TSR have the boxed set down or what?).

Is it worth 70.00? That's a personal decision. The pricepoint has been set and it seems to be selling.

Omote wrote:
YES, I applaud GG for putting out this monster, and purchased mine for full price right along with the other fans at GenCon... there is just somthing (what that is I'm not fully sure) that is not all that spectactular about DCC#35.

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:22 pm

Well I will concede that the DCC WORLD box is one of the better boxes on the market. The material is thick and very sturdy, a definitely good box.

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Jyrdan Fairblade · Post by **Jyrdan Fairblade** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:53 pm

Well, I picked it up last night.

Is it worth $70? I'd say no.

But is it great? Absoluetely yes!

Is it heavy? Absolutely yes!

Reading it was like stepping back into time. It was like seeing the map of Mystara for the first time in the Expert set. It was like opening the maps to the Forgotten Realms 1e grey box for the first time. This is the kind of great boxed set that one would've seen in 1e and 2e.

Like Bard's Gate, what we have is a well thought-out setting that is based on being a solid fantasy setting, not some flashy, outlandish attention-getter.

One thing I noticed in the catalogue that was included was an add for a new rules-lite system that Goodman games will be doing, based on some card game called Dungeoneer. Anyone know anything else about this?

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:10 pm

Other then advertisements, I know little about DUNGEONEER. I think, the setting of Dungeoneer might be based off the the card game, if not, the artwork still seems remonicent of the Tomb of the Lich card game.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:14 pm

Dungeoneer

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:07 pm

A guy I played RPG's with in CA had these. I played it one night and had a lot of fun. I've been meaning to buy them for myself ever since. Its been over two years now.