What do you hope for with a 5th printing PHB?

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:44 pm

Stephen! "SR boy" is causing more confusion right before the 5th printing. Lol. Just joking.

alcyone · Post by **alcyone** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:43 pm

The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

Poor guys.

Arduin · Post by **Arduin** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:54 pm

tylermo wrote:Stephen! "SR boy" is causing more confusion right before the 5th printing. Lol. Just joking.

My actual name is Cydoimus

pbalandier · Post by **pbalandier** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:17 pm

For a fifth printing, I would like better clarity, boxes with rules summary.
Old school style is nice, but a better reading of the information would be appreciated.

western watcher · Post by **western watcher** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:04 am

A better encumbrance system. It's the one thing I don't like about C&C.

MormonYoYoMan · Post by **MormonYoYoMan** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 am

I'm still waiting for that pony.

Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:24 am

ooh! I wanna pony too!

maasenstodt · Post by **maasenstodt** » Tue May 22, 2012 3:12 am

western watcher wrote:A better encumbrance system. It's the one thing I don't like about C&C.

I'd pay $50.00 to see C&C officially adopt the LotFP encumbrance system.

Andred of Albans · Post by **Andred of Albans** » Tue May 22, 2012 6:55 am

Aergraith wrote:The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

Poor guys.

So buy the PDF for $15 - for the price of 2 "value meals" at the Windy's Arkansas Fried McBurger Emporium you have all the new crunch without paying the full freight of a new book.

You win, the Trolls win and you even have enough money left to buy a Happy McPrince meal

MormonYoYoMan · Post by **MormonYoYoMan** » Tue May 22, 2012 4:05 pm

Andred of Albans wrote:
Aergraith wrote:The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

Poor guys.
So buy the PDF for $15 - for the price of 2 "value meals" at the Windy's Arkansas Fried McBurger Emporium you have all the new crunch without paying the full freight of a new book.

You win, the Trolls win and you even have enough money left to buy a Happy McPrince meal

"Happy McPrince" will be the name of my next character!

mgtremaine · Post by **mgtremaine** » Tue May 22, 2012 4:49 pm

MormonYoYoMan wrote:[
"Happy McPrince" will be the name of my next character!

I hear the sharpening of blades in the halls of the Assassins guild. :0

-Mike

redwullf · Post by **redwullf** » Tue May 22, 2012 5:17 pm

This was probably already stated, but in case it wasn't: Armor, Weapon, and Equipment descriptions. Brief ones, but descriptions nonetheless.

mbeacom · Post by **mbeacom** » Tue May 22, 2012 5:57 pm

I'm still pulling for Ranger art that doesn't make Rangers out to be a class built for two weapon fighting, something that was probably a left over from 3rd edition but that didn't make the transition into C&C.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue May 22, 2012 11:31 pm

If you back this project at the $500 level you will receive 10 Player's Handbooks (plus all of that other stuff). TEN BOOKS! 5 signed and personalized, and 5 fresh, unsigned copies! Holy crap. YOU GET THE HOLE DAMN BOOKSTORE!

~O

mostrojoe · Post by **mostrojoe** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:28 pm

TheMetal1 wrote:Clarify magic item creation

Clarify use of helmets

Cross reference the PHB with the CKG, MT, OGM, etc

Clarify prime vs non-prime checks i.e. rogue move silently vs fighter w/ 18 Dex move silently

Prime 12/18 vs Prime +6

Agreed.

Traveller · Post by **Traveller** » Thu May 24, 2012 12:00 am

mostrojoe wrote:
TheMetal1 wrote:Clarify magic item creation

Clarify use of helmets

Cross reference the PHB with the CKG, MT, OGM, etc

Clarify prime vs non-prime checks i.e. rogue move silently vs fighter w/ 18 Dex move silently

Prime 12/18 vs Prime +6
Agreed.

I don't wholly agree.

Magic item creation is a Monsters & Treasure item and does not fall under the scope of the PHB revisions, unless rules for magic item creation are in a section of the PHB I haven't seen yet. When Monsters & Treasure is set to be revised, then I'm sure any necessary clarifications will be added.

The helmets table should be removed since there are no rules for called shots to the head in the combat section.

Cross referencing is only required between the PHB and M&T and the main concern in that regard is with creatures and items in Monsters & Treasure not having EV values. All other books are optional and thus adding cross references would only serve to confuse.

Prime vs. non-prime checks I thought was pretty crystal.

Prime 12/18 is a style choice on the Trolls' part. Mechanically, 12/18 and +6 are the same thing.

mostrojoe · Post by **mostrojoe** » Mon May 28, 2012 7:20 pm

I hope no another mess with the encumbrance rules

MattyHelms · Post by **MattyHelms** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:00 am

I'd like to see the "Expert Weapons and Armor" details moved out of the Encumbrance section.

I'd like to see the grammar cleaned a bit more - some hiccups remian in the Surprise section and the Combat Example off the top of my head.

Traveller · Post by **Traveller** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:37 am

MattyHelms wrote:I'd like to see the grammar cleaned a bit more.

That's being worked on as we speak.

kreider204 · Post by **kreider204** » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:17 pm

I hope that the Trolls will take me up on my offer to help with proofing ...

Troll Lord Games

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