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Who else is looking forward to this game? :D

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Can't say I am. I wasn't impressed with LotFP and it's shock for shock's sake came off as more juvenile than 'edgy'. When Carcosa was added to the mix I lost what little respect I had left for the people behind the game. This is just another attempt by Raggi and company to show how 'edgy' and 'dangerous' they are.
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I am more interested in getting an Orcs in Space game, since Pigs in Space is taken already. :(

I'll look this over but I can't say I'll get it. But, I haven't bought anything newly published in a while... still have so much old junk to get.

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Looking back on my past post I think I came off a bit short. So, let me clarify. I don't mind dark games nor do I mind dark fantasy or sci-fi. However, LotFP comes off as forced and containing nothing more than shock value. It feels to me that the writers, authors and artists are stuck in the days of OZZY biting the heads off birds rather than making a context for such things.
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Julian Grimm wrote:Looking back on my past post I think I came off a bit short. So, let me clarify. I don't mind dark games nor do I mind dark fantasy or sci-fi. However, LotFP comes off as forced and containing nothing more than shock value. It feels to me that the writers, authors and artists are stuck in the days of OZZY biting the heads off birds rather than making a context for such things.
I understood what you meant and I completely see your point. However, beyond the shocking imagery, the books actually give some very good advice on doing more horror-centric games, you'd be surprised.

I HAVE heard about the stuff one can find in Carcosa. That, along with some rules I didn't care for made me avoid buying it when I otherwise would have. (I initially found the premise very interesting and then lost interest when I heard of some of the approaches it took, especially in the story.) That said I have nothing against the book, it's just not for me.

As for Machinations of the Space Princess, it's its own thing now, and as far as I know it's not under Raggi's company anymore, after its initial 'adventure' funding failed. (Or maybe it is, but I tend to look at each product as its own thing anyway.)

I for one am eager to see a rules-light game in the Heavy Metal Space Opera style, and at the end of the day I go with that; Does this idea, by itself, interest me or not?

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Could be kind of cool. The artist seems like a good choice for the feel of the game that they are going for.

I had no problem with Carcosa so long as you knew what you were buying. It really wasn't too far afield from Empire of the Petal Throne (the TrS version- which kicks butt). EOTPT just did it much better. Other than that it just read like a bunch of random encounters thrown in a book-which it cool, but if I'm buying a setting, I'd like more immersion. I found it to be a good resource however.

LOTF did nothing for me, nor does any of the retro-clones. I don't have an issue with them, I just don't need them as I have AD&D, Od&D, Holmes Basic and C&C. I have the rules I need already. Don't need any more. And frankly, the art in the retro-clones leaves much to be desired, imo.

If a retro-clone had a decent presentation and something different to offer other than a few house rules, I'd probably take a look at it. Just haven't seen much of it that significantly improves on the material found on Dragonsfoot or in Domesday Book that you could get for free. Everyones mileage varies, of course.

I absolutely don't do kickstarter though. If I see it at my gamestore, I'll give it a look.
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cuchulainkevin wrote:I absolutely don't do kickstarter though. If I see it at my gamestore, I'll give it a look.
I'm actually not funding it either. I don't really like getting things as PDFs and it will be print on demand. As the project is already fully funded, I'll just wait for it to be available and THEN I'll order a physical copy! I just hate that no matter how much you'd fund, a physical copy wouldn't come with it automatically.

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As a side-note, this might be good inspirational mterial for such a game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Sloane

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I like LotFP so I'm tempted to back this. But, with X-Plorers, Stars Without Number, and Traveller, my sci-fi gaming spectrum is covered.
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redwullf wrote:I like LotFP so I'm tempted to back this. But, with X-Plorers, Stars Without Number, and Traveller, my sci-fi gaming spectrum is covered.
I'm personally getting it for the same reason I got LotFP in the first place; the style/fluff. On a crunch level, I did not need LotFP, but its style and advice has informed my DMing style since then, no matter what D&D edition/variant I've used.

And please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not that familiar with any of the three, I think that the type of sci-fi they're inspired on is more in the style of Star Wars and/or Star Trek, not in the Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal style.

If you look at the writer's blog, you'll find some cool stuff, like how you'd explain the use of swords in such a technically advanced world, both for fluff and crunch and what kind of setting will be featured in the game.

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you to part with your hard-earned money or anything, I'm just saying that I think this game covers a different niche for sci-fi games. xD

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My library of sci fi already includes more than enough for me to create my own "Heavy Metal" feel, if I want it. Especially with my RIFTS and Synnibar books. I also have Eclipse Phase, which is kind of a "What would the future of the "Terminator" look like?" setting. You can check it out if you wish, all the PDF's for it are free, legally.

Then I have Cthulhu Tech, which combines Cthulhu with several various Anime ideas dealing with mechs and bio morphs as well as psionics and magic.

So while I am sure this is cool, and I wouldn't mind owning it, it is nothing I need.
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I think Redwulf expressed my thoughts exactly.
It does look cool, and sound cool. But I like the idea of it as a setting for a game I already have. sort of how I felt about Hulks and Horrors and Spaceships and Starmen (or whatever). (though H&H I'd actually buy still, if it gets printed)

aside: S&S has the allure of being a non official Star Trek game, but FarTrek is available for free, and it's also sweet.

That said, you should play X-plorers. :D
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O.k, guess the answer to my first post is that I am the only one on these boards looking forward to this game then. :p

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treant_on_fire wrote:O.k, guess the answer to my first post is that I am the only one on these boards looking forward to this game then. :p
Perhaps. Since you ARE interested, you might also be interested to learn that John (Matt) Stater already has a game like his out there: Tales of the Space Princess. Check it out for 5 bucks.
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redwullf wrote:
treant_on_fire wrote:O.k, guess the answer to my first post is that I am the only one on these boards looking forward to this game then. :p
Perhaps. Since you ARE interested, you might also be interested to learn that John (Matt) Stater already has a game like his out there: Tales of the Space Princess. Check it out for 5 bucks.
Looks fun, but more Flash Gordon/Star Wars than Metal Hurlant. Despite the similar names, I'd say that they appear to be quite different.

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treant_on_fire wrote:
redwullf wrote:
treant_on_fire wrote:O.k, guess the answer to my first post is that I am the only one on these boards looking forward to this game then. :p
Perhaps. Since you ARE interested, you might also be interested to learn that John (Matt) Stater already has a game like his out there: Tales of the Space Princess. Check it out for 5 bucks.
Looks fun, but more Flash Gordon/Star Wars than Metal Hurlant. Despite the similar names, I'd say that they appear to be quite different.
Well without looking inside, who can say? "Can't judge a book by its cover..." yada-yada-yada...
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redwullf wrote:
treant_on_fire wrote:
redwullf wrote:
treant_on_fire wrote:O.k, guess the answer to my first post is that I am the only one on these boards looking forward to this game then. :p
Perhaps. Since you ARE interested, you might also be interested to learn that John (Matt) Stater already has a game like his out there: Tales of the Space Princess. Check it out for 5 bucks.
Looks fun, but more Flash Gordon/Star Wars than Metal Hurlant. Despite the similar names, I'd say that they appear to be quite different.
Well without looking inside, who can say? "Can't judge a book by its cover..." yada-yada-yada...
I've taken a look at many articles in his blog that have to do with the game. :p The author even clearly stated the style he was going for. It does look good, I'm just saying they also seem to be two completely different animals.

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