The CKG and the cost of wagons?

[Volomyre]

Howdy all.
I have been searching for the answer to this question on the forum and haven't found it so I thought I would just ask.
On page 55 of the CKG under the column "gold" is that the carrying capacity, or the cost of the wagon?
If its carrying capacity then...can a wheelbarrow only hold 5 gold?
If its the cost then does a Conestoga wagon really cost 75,000 gold or is that 7 a typo with a comma in the wrong place making the price 5000?

Now I know that I can price anything the way I want, I am the CK after all, but I am just trying to understand the CKG.
Thanks for reading this.
Volo.

[Treebore]

I would definitely go with it being a mistake. The Trolls do make them.

[Sir Ironside]

Top of page 54 reads...

the tables below provide some suggested carrying capacities for various items. animal and wagons.The weight column indicates how much gross weight each can hold, and the gold column indicates the average allowable amount of coins each can carry, specifically gold. This average can vary greatly as the size of the coins differs.

Both Weight and Gold are the same thing, how much weight a wagon can carry. The gold has its own separate row because (I figure) it is the most popular item that would be in a wagon.

The way I see, because coins are not bulky and contains a smaller footprint in the wagon, the wagon can support more weight in ratio to its carrying weight. You could view the gold weight as the maximum weight, for the wagon before it becomes over-loaded. It also suggests that carrying normal objects, other than gold and you try to put the same amount gold's carrying capacity, you run the risk of it tipping over (Uneven distribution), a slow plodding pace, equipment too high that things would have to be removed to be able to cross an obstacle etc.

In a nutshell

• Wagon weight capacity is the same as the gold capacity. They are not separate.
• The gold capacity is only used as a example specific to gold.
• Gold weight is more and shows the maximum carrying weight of the wagon.
• When determining weight you can use the gold capacity as the maximum carrying capacity.
• When carrying anything but gold, the smaller carrying capacity is the maximum of what the wagon can carry.
• If the normal carrying capacity goes over the normal carrying capacity it is assumed that you have overloaded your wagon and penalties maybe be taken into account.

[Volomyre]

Ok, so unlike vessels that have a cost listed (pg 57) there is no typo or error, wagons don't have an individual cost listed. I need to use the prices on the equipment list in the PHB and come up with my own cost.
Is this correct?
Thank you very much for your quick reply.
P.S. at Treebore...ha ha ha.

[serleran]

The good Sir has it.

I don't make mistakes.

[Volomyre]

So has anyone come up with costs for the wagons listed or am I the only one that worries about this stuff?

[Arduin]

So has anyone come up with costs for the wagons listed or am I the only one that worries about this stuff?

The volume tables in CKG are horribly broken and in error. I just use data from other games.

Here is the original thread listing out this stuff in the CKG

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12090&p=185827&hilit=errata#p185827

[Volomyre]

Thanks for the link Arduin.
I actually found that thread when searching wagons here.
I did notice that the capacities seemed a little off but I was thinking I just wasn't understanding it.
It seems to me that a wheelbarrow should be able to hold more than 5 gold.
Once again thanks to everyone for the replies.
Volo.

[serleran]

I'll look at the original manuscript when I get home this weekend and then see if the values are "broken." I doubt they are, but I never cared to check and make sure what was provided was what was printed.

[Arduin]

I'll look at the original manuscript when I get home this weekend and then see if the values are "broken." I doubt they are, but I never cared to check and make sure what was provided was what was printed.

They aren't so much broken as, vaporized by a thermo-nuke. Unless the intention was that they be nonsensical...

[zombiehands]

A lot of the capacities of things are way off. For example a camel in CKG can carry 360lbs. In real life camels can carry much more than horses upwards to 1000lbs.

[serleran]

I wonder if, maybe, some of the info got switched around... I'll check when I get home. Whenever that is.