Stuff I'd Buy if TLG Made It

DeadReborn · Post by **DeadReborn** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:48 am

serleran wrote:Engineering Apocalypse -- The 12 Step Guide to Destroying the World.

Sounds awesome!

Zudrak · Post by **Zudrak** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:43 pm

serleran wrote:
DMSamuel wrote:I'd buy the A series all in one book or box set.

I'd buy a quarterly print magazine (yes, the crusader on a schedule, please!).

I'd buy Engineering Towns.

I'd buy Engineering Nations.

I'd buy Engineering Ships.

I have many ideas for this product line. Cities, Nations, Worlds, Planes, Religions, etc etc. And, in fact, I sometimes come back to a decently large file for monsters, once called Creature Crucible, which intends to provide many and various things for those beings... however, my favorite of these is thus far: Engineering Apocalypse -- The 12 Step Guide to Destroying the World.

Which could segue into a game called Ruins & Radiation. If one were to produce such a thing...

Post by **finarvyn** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:53 pm

I'd love to buy a good-quality C&C t-shirt with a giganto logo on it. (There are several to pick from. I really like the early C&C logos, but the newer blocky rectangular one is kind of neat, too.) Doesn't have to come with a lot of fancy artwork, just the logo.

TheMetal1 · Post by **TheMetal1** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:14 pm

Mentioned in another thread somewhere...

Codex Monstrosity: A collection off all the C&C Monster Books in one tome.

Codex Crusade: A PHB and CKG combined (along with the Players Option Book soon to be released) (A bit similar to the Pathfinder Rulebook)

Perhaps a limited print of PHB, CKG, and M&T together.

A revised C&C Whitebox with Levels 1 thru 5...Followed by the C&C Blackbox with levels 6-10...Followed by the C&C Bluebox with Leves 11-15...and finally a C&C Red Box, with levels 16-23 (or whatever is highlevel, don't have my CKG with me and the haven't released the epic level stuff from the kickstarter) these would be evergreen products like the CKG, PHB and M&Ts. Just with updated printing.

C&C Pawns. Like Paizo, but for specific adventures.

C&C Herolab stuff. I know Boomer is doing a great job with the authoring kit, let's make it official so we can add more content.

More C&C Fantasy Grounds Stuff. Awesome stuff, more adventures please!

The B-Series path where we can adventure to the Tree of Life instead of Aufstrag.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:32 pm

TheMetal1 wrote: C&C Pawns. Like Paizo, but for specific adventures.

TLG is sitting on a possible gold mine with this idea. Figure flats and terrain for Fields of Battle, Pawns for C&C, or even counters. Fat Dragon is sitting in a prime position to partner with TLG on this. I wish they would make it a go.

Just a mental exercise here but this is what I would do:

C&C Core Line: A series of sets that would cover Adventurers, NPC's and the core monsters from M&T. You could expand to add in Classic Monsters and Tome of the Unclean at later dates.

Aihrde: Aihrde specific monsters, adventurers and NPCs.

Fields of Battle: Geared to skirmish and large scale combat. The sets would include troops, Siege engines and terrain.

Haunted Highlands: Like the Aihrde set.

Other SIEGE: Amazing Adventures, StarSIEGE and Harvesters.

The beauty is that this could all be done in PDF and use existing artwork and would be cheaper than a full on mini's line.

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:45 am

Julian, I was telling somebody recently that TLG needs to (at least) offer the figure flats from the original FoB boxed set as a pdf. Bare minimum, they could take images from the various monster books and use those to provide additional unit types. Casey or somebody could create stats for all of them. All they need is a little time. More support for Fields of Battle.

Also, a pdf of the blank unit card that used to be provided with the set.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:37 am

So many projects I am reminded of... like my random scenario generator for Fields of Battle.

I think an expansion, something like Julian mentioned, maybe called "Fields of Glory," could be sweet. Add in about 5-6 pop-up constructs from FDG... maybe a catapult, some sort of tower, a city. I dunno. The terrain pieces would need to be on some sturdy cardstock / cardboard.

REHowardfanatic · Post by **REHowardfanatic** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:48 pm

Codex Romantica- Roleplaying in the age of the medieval romances of Arthur, Charlemange, and Robin Hood
Codex Classica- Roleplaying in the ancient days of Egypt, Greece, and Rome
Codex Hyborea- Roleplaying the greatest fantasy world ever created
Codex Disnia- Roleplaying in the world of fairy tales (my wife really wants this one)

Other than that, I'd like to see full color CKG and M&T come out before I hit the age of retirement.

I'd like to have the print version of Tome of the Unclean as well.

And a reprint of the Black Book of Nartarus.

I'd like to see a Tome of Equipment that treats the subject with an eye towards historical accuracy instead of the fantastical nonsense that most Arms & Equipment Guides devolve into.

I'd like to see a Of Ships and the Sea-style gaming sourcebook with a fully developped Mariner class, discussion of the history of ships and stats for dozens of them, random nautical adventures tables, etc.

I second the notion that I'd like to see an expanded/completed Of Gods and Monsters. I'll add that besides the missing gods and monsters from the book, I'd like to see the heroes from Deities and Demigods added back in and a chapter on the Cthulhu Mythos. King Arthur desrves his own book and can thus be omitted and the Airdhe stuff belongs in the Airdhe codex-- another book I'd like to see before my bones lie bleached in the sun.

Oh- and I'd like to see StarSeige done in a way more consistent/compatible with the C&C rules, including a class-based character system. Maybe something like X-Plorers or Stars Without Number, but a little more Star Frontiers than Traveller. I really, really don't want to have to use a scientific graphing calculator to handle starship movement and combat...

Zudrak · Post by **Zudrak** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:55 pm

serleran wrote:So many projects I am reminded of... like my random scenario generator for Fields of Battle.

I think an expansion, something like Julian mentioned, maybe called "Fields of Glory," could be sweet. Add in about 5-6 pop-up constructs from FDG... maybe a catapult, some sort of tower, a city. I dunno. The terrain pieces would need to be on some sturdy cardstock / cardboard.

Yes, but Mad Max is coming out in the near (?) future and there needs to be a new and good Robert Doyel-(you may have heard of him)-authored Post-Apocalyptic game out there to capture the spirit of the culture that will (hopefully) soon be sick of OMGZOMBIES and want something else to do with their (little) spare time. Let's say there was a guy like Mr. Doyel who made some cool gaming stuff in the past, just for chutes and wiggles, who had hinted at making a PA game... Could that be something a certain group of gamers could see produced at some point?

Or are the plans as dead as the Toe Cutter?

DMSamuel · Post by **DMSamuel** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:01 pm

REHowardfanatic wrote:Other than that, I'd like to see full color CKG and M&T come out before I hit the age of retirement.

I'd like to have the print version of Tome of the Unclean as well.

Me too! The latest KS is making the color CKG and M&T possible - let's hope they get printed soon! The 6th printing phb was fast and looks beautiful - I'm sure the color printing of CKG and M&T will be just as nice!

REHowardfanatic wrote:I'd like to see a Of Ships and the Sea-style gaming sourcebook with a fully developped Mariner class, discussion of the history of ships and stats for dozens of them, random nautical adventures tables, etc.

Oh yes - I would love love love this - would buy it in a heartbeat!

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:57 pm

Zudrak wrote:Yes, but Mad Max is coming out in the near (?) future and there needs to be a new and good Robert Doyel-(you may have heard of him)-authored Post-Apocalyptic game out there to capture the spirit of the culture that will (hopefully) soon be sick of OMGZOMBIES and want something else to do with their (little) spare time. Let's say there was a guy like Mr. Doyel who made some cool gaming stuff in the past, just for chutes and wiggles, who had hinted at making a PA game... Could that be something a certain group of gamers could see produced at some point?

Or are the plans as dead as the Toe Cutter?

Plans change, sometimes, or they think they do. I'm toying with a considerable simplification... 4 attributes rather than 6, for example, to go along with my other new idea to rewrite Reptiles and Samurai: A Game of Mutants, Magic, and Something. Not sure. Last time I mentioned R&R, there seemed to be little to no interest which is more than disheartening. Plus, I'm a jerk.

jdizzy001 · Post by **jdizzy001** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:45 pm

Miniatures. I'd buy miniatures from TLG. Not prepainted. Plastic or lead free metal.

Zudrak · Post by **Zudrak** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:30 pm

serleran wrote:
Zudrak wrote:Yes, but Mad Max is coming out in the near (?) future and there needs to be a new and good Robert Doyel-(you may have heard of him)-authored Post-Apocalyptic game out there to capture the spirit of the culture that will (hopefully) soon be sick of OMGZOMBIES and want something else to do with their (little) spare time. Let's say there was a guy like Mr. Doyel who made some cool gaming stuff in the past, just for chutes and wiggles, who had hinted at making a PA game... Could that be something a certain group of gamers could see produced at some point?

Or are the plans as dead as the Toe Cutter?
Plans change, sometimes, or they think they do. I'm toying with a considerable simplification... 4 attributes rather than 6, for example, to go along with my other new idea to rewrite Reptiles and Samurai: A Game of Mutants, Magic, and Something. Not sure. Last time I mentioned R&R, there seemed to be little to no interest which is more than disheartening. Plus, I'm a jerk.

Understood (the plans change part, I already knew you were a jerk tease, like someone moving bait away just as the hungry predator tries to strike.

I may have been a lone voice RE: R&R at the time it was being bandied about in your head. Or maybe it was when I was not "on" here as often after re-marrying and moving. I'd still be very interested in it. I always loved Gamma World and a Serleran version of a PA game is something I would love to see -- especially after hearing what I did about it.

Happy gaming,
Zujerk

AGNKim · Post by **AGNKim** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:45 pm

REHowardfanatic wrote: Codex Hyborea- Roleplaying the greatest fantasy world ever created

God I wish we could do this, I would love to write stuff for Hyborea. I, too, am an R. E. Howard fanatic.

I still have all of my Mongoose Conan RPG books, like 15 different books. I'm gonna talk to Steve about this...

REHowardfanatic · Post by **REHowardfanatic** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:01 pm

AGNKim wrote:
REHowardfanatic wrote: Codex Hyborea- Roleplaying the greatest fantasy world ever created
God I wish we could do this, I would love to write stuff for Hyborea. I, too, am an R. E. Howard fanatic. I still have all of my Mongoose Conan RPG books, like 15 different books. I'm gonna talk to Steve about this...

Do it anyway and let us download your extensive house rules! Hyborea is almost the only universe I have ever fantasy gamed in (I've done some flirting with Ravenloft and Camelot).

I had to sell my Conan RPG stuff (a common condition in my life, alas) but I have stacks of the trade paperbacks and almost every novel ever published. And I have read far more than I own.

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:57 pm

DM Samuel, A0-A5 were available in one softcover book with a box, but I sold our last copies of the "Umbrage Saga" at convention last year. Not 100% certain, but I'm not sure it will be reprinted. I "think" the plan is for Stephen to eventually finish A13:Aufstrag (page count is said to be as big, or bigger, than total of A0-A12 combined). Thought I heard a rumor of one big mega-compilation. I'm really excited about Aufstrag. I figure that's going to take some time, and my off and on A-series campaign (since Sept. 2011) derailed several months ago anyway. So, no big hurry for A13, I guess. Who am I kidding?? I still want to read it.

DMSamuel · Post by **DMSamuel** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:11 pm

tylermo wrote:DM Samuel, A0-A5 were available in one softcover book with a box, but I sold our last copies of the "Umbrage Saga" at convention last year. Not 100% certain, but I'm not sure it will be reprinted. I "think" the plan is for Stephen to eventually finish A13:Aufstrag (page count is said to be as big, or bigger, than total of A0-A12 combined). Thought I heard a rumor of one big mega-compilation. I'm really excited about Aufstrag. I figure that's going to take some time, and my off and on A-series campaign (since Sept. 2011) derailed several months ago anyway. So, no big hurry for A13, I guess. Who am I kidding?? I still want to read it.

Oh yes, I know - I already have the whole series A0 through A12, along with the Umbrage Saga boxed set. But I would still buy a hardcover set of A0-A12 with maps printed in a folio folder. That would be a dream book, and would pair (triple?) nicely with Aufstrag book + A13, right on my bookshelf!

seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:15 pm

I think all boxed sets are out of print now as box maker for TLG is no longer there. Good news is the printing capabilities for hardbacks and softbacks has jumped enormously over the last several years, and the kickstarter format has worked well for the most part in pre-financing the costs on projects it would seem.

What do I want to see:

With the 6th printing and forward:

Finish up the Core of M&T and CKG in full-color matching, then also Classic Monsters and Of Gods & Monsters in the same way, add the missing gods to OG&M, do Tome of the Unclean and then with future reprints DON'T redo the trade dress for a good while, at least several printings - let these be THE look of C&C for a good while (fix minor errata etc. inside but resist urge to major changes).

Finish the Aihrde works - new Codex and A13 plus both individual and packaged versions of A0-A12. I personally think M&TA stands good as it is now.

Get Victorious done and out

The Rogues Gallery - this would be VERY useful!

To grow the brand, keep enhancing additional setting material - HH and Bluffside are tremendous products. Expand new worlds and settings (heh - I have one I wouldn't mind cleaning up and reworking a bit to see as a real published world

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seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:19 pm

And lots more modules, especially in the "compact, can run in one or two shots" kind of format.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:36 pm

A core rules type program that would handle campaign development and the ability to run the game from your own lap-top or computer. This would also include add-ons for things like Haunted Highlands, Aihrde and new books. There would be mapping software, NPC and PC creation, encounter builders and a section that would integrate house rules.

Zudrak · Post by **Zudrak** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:53 pm

Julian Grimm wrote:A core rules type program that would handle campaign development and the ability to run the game from your own lap-top or computer. This would also include add-ons for things like Haunted Highlands, Aihrde and new books. There would be mapping software, NPC and PC creation, encounter builders and a section that would integrate house rules.

This is an excellent idea, Julian.

"America isn't about getting what you want, it's about getting what you didn't know you needed!" (heard that somewhere)

EDIT: To be clear, I would totally want this and buy it at first opportunity.

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:42 pm

A C&C book for Conan-type fantasy?? That would be great. One of Savage Worlds' licensees has done Beasts and Barbarians. It's pretty good. As I've said before, would have been great if (in addition to Solomon Kane) Pinnacle Entertainment could've gotten the chance to do Conan. I suspect the licensing fees are higher for Conan.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:43 pm

Did they do that C&C+M&T Rules Cyclopedia book yet? Well, they should dammit.

~O

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:48 pm

Seems like some of us were talking about a C&C Cyclopedia. For me, that would be phb+m&t+some a few other creatures and herd animals from m&t of a, and a few things from the ckg (levels 13-24, the extra combat maneuvers, and some of the other useful material).

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:54 pm

Yup. Make that happen Tylermo... before I have to do it for them.

~O

REHowardfanatic · Post by **REHowardfanatic** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:25 am

How about an 80 page supplement called Engineering Minutiae featuring tons of random rolled tables covering things like d20 Table of What's for Dinner, 2d12 Table of What Deity the Stain on Your Shirt Resembles, or (if we follow the WOTC mentality) the d100 Table of Character Gender?

REHowardfanatic · Post by **REHowardfanatic** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:29 am

tylermo wrote:A C&C book for Conan-type fantasy?? That would be great. One of Savage Worlds' licensees has done Beasts and Barbarians. It's pretty good. As I've said before, would have been great if (in addition to Solomon Kane) Pinnacle Entertainment could've gotten the chance to do Conan. I suspect the licensing fees are higher for Conan.

Perhaps then they could do King Kull? Surely those rights aren't even as high as Solomon Kane?

Or a Kickstarter to buy the Conan rights? Even I would come up off my cheap ass to support that!

(Or course, Castles and Crusades is the ONLY system I have ever seen where doing Robert E. Howard is possible. The power level and rarity of spellcasters is just right. Plus, the barbarian class the Troll Lords present is by far the best one ever published and the only one that truly reflects everyone's favorite sullen-eyed Cimmerian!)

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:34 am

I'll get right on that, Omote. I'm sure Stephen hinges on any suggestions I make.

AGNKim · Post by **AGNKim** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:49 pm

Besides myself, Steve and Davis are both huge Howard fans. The three of us spent some time one night before our game discussing our favorite Conan story and what not. I'd freakin' love to get some C&C Conan.

Alas... I suspect the rights are fairly steep.

Buttmonkey · Post by **Buttmonkey** » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:26 pm

seskis281 wrote:And lots more modules, especially in the "compact, can run in one or two shots" kind of format.

Definitely. The last thing I need these days is another megadungeon.

Troll Lord Games

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