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Monsters & Treasure 4 had left my desk and headed to layout. Changes in the book include the following

1) Full color interior art
2) Light clean up of text
3) Clarification of some magic items
4) Notations taken from the Message Boards here
5) Slight alterations to experience points
6) Armor/Weapon Magic Item charts cleaned up and made more accessible
7) Tracking ability for monsters created. They track as a level of ranger. For instance a wolf has Tracking 10. he tracks as a 10th level ranger
8) Initiative clarification on tie

Some other light stuff, but she should be print ready by next week.

IF that happens we'll send to all backers in digital format for one week. Anything you guys find that needs fixed, that we missed, just let us know via email.

But we'll go to print 7 days after that and there aint no going back! Well until 5th printing. haha

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Troll Lord wrote:IF that happens we'll send to all backers in digital format for one week. Anything you guys find that needs fixed, that we missed, just let us know via email.

But we'll go to print 7 days after that and there aint no going back! Well until 5th printing. haha

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Awesome news. Thanks.
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Great news. At first, I thought you were announcing a fourth monster book. haha

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I can hardly wait!!

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Woot!!!! Yay!!!

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Need new M&T book to go with lonely new PHB. I look forward to this new printing, and the added/clarified wording and tables. Awesome stuff. Plus, the cover of it is totally kick-booty!

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Any clarification to the Magic Item creation? i.e. any input from the discussion below and others...

http://trolllord.com/forums/viewtopic.p ... 0b6eafdd2a

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TheMetal1 wrote:Any clarification to the Magic Item creation? i.e. any input from the discussion below and others...

http://trolllord.com/forums/viewtopic.p ... 0b6eafdd2a
Did you put this in the thread when the Trolls were asking for errata on that book a couple months ago?
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One we found last night was it doesn't say if black dragon spit is a line or cone.
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Aergraith wrote:One we found last night was it doesn't say if black dragon spit is a line or cone.

Yes, omitted. However, "A black dragon’s breath weapon is a searing caustic mist".

That wouldn't work as a Line. So at least the GM can figure it out easily enough.
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Arduin wrote:
Aergraith wrote:One we found last night was it doesn't say if black dragon spit is a line or cone.

Yes, omitted. However, "A black dragon’s breath weapon is a searing caustic mist".

That wouldn't work as a Line. So at least the GM can figure it out easily enough.
Well, the problems was, its a "spit", so a line, like Lightning, so we did have confusion. "Mist" can spread out, or be a "line" spray, so not really helpful.
IE is it a sneezing "spray" that spreads out, or is it a "spit", like a nasty glob of chewing tobacco being spit out? The CK went with a Line.
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Treebore wrote:
Well, the problems was, its a "spit", so a line, like Lightning, so we did have confusion. "Mist" can spread out, or be a "line" spray, so not really helpful.
IE is it a sneezing "spray" that spreads out, or is it a "spit", like a nasty glob of chewing tobacco being spit out? The CK went with a Line.

If something comes out like a mist, you aren't going to get a "line" of any real length. It will be a cloud like manifestation. Not a line. When you spit tobacco it doesn't come out of your mouth as a mist but a liquid. So, either the Trolls made it a mist (so not a line) or they mistakenly used the word "mist".
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Mists are mists -- they are not mist(akes.)

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Arduin wrote:
TheMetal1 wrote:Any clarification to the Magic Item creation? i.e. any input from the discussion below and others...

http://trolllord.com/forums/viewtopic.p ... 0b6eafdd2a
Did you put this in the thread when the Trolls were asking for errata on that book a couple months ago?
Pretty sure i mentioned it or someone did. Do you have the original link to that thread?

On another topic reference experience points: any chance we might see average xp for each monster as an index? Someone here did an excelent pdf which works well for me as opposed to using the xp code.

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I intend on showing my work once the book is published.

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I'd go with line. A line of mist, i suppose. or it's a line a rapidly evaporating venom that for all intents and purposes, becomes a mist so quickly that is makes a line of mist.
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Also, it's a line in the d20 SRD.
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TheMetal1 wrote:
Arduin wrote:
TheMetal1 wrote:Any clarification to the Magic Item creation? i.e. any input from the discussion below and others...

http://trolllord.com/forums/viewtopic.p ... 0b6eafdd2a
Did you put this in the thread when the Trolls were asking for errata on that book a couple months ago?
Pretty sure i mentioned it or someone did. Do you have the original link to that thread?
No. Sorry. I wish there was a bookmark function on the boards. :x
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As to the interior style, will it match the PH? By that I mean, have the same cool parchment border colors and gloss pages. It would be odd to have the pages white, I think, when sitting open next to the other books.

And I noticed that larger font size wasn't mentioned, so I assume it will remain the same. I was hoping for the larger font size in both the M&T and CKG as well, since my old eyes can't see the print without glasses, but the new PH I can (praise Bejeebus).

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Arduin wrote:
No. Sorry. I wish there was a bookmark function on the boards. :x
There is; at the top of each topic there is a link called "Bookmark Topic" and your bookmarks are found in your User Control Panel.
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Aergraith wrote:
Arduin wrote:
No. Sorry. I wish there was a bookmark function on the boards. :x
There is; at the top of each topic there is a link called "Bookmark Topic" and your bookmarks are found in your User Control Panel.
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Piperdog wrote:As to the interior style, will it match the PH? By that I mean, have the same cool parchment border colors and gloss pages. It would be odd to have the pages white, I think, when sitting open next to the other books.

And I noticed that larger font size wasn't mentioned, so I assume it will remain the same. I was hoping for the larger font size in both the M&T and CKG as well, since my old eyes can't see the print without glasses, but the new PH I can (praise Bejeebus).
Just because it wasn't mentioned doesn't mean it's not going to be present. If I recall, getting Monsters & Treasure to look like the Players Handbook was one of the stretch goals of the Kickstarter. Same with the Castle Keeper's Guide.

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Piperdog wrote:As to the interior style, will it match the PH? By that I mean, have the same cool parchment border colors and gloss pages. It would be odd to have the pages white, I think, when sitting open next to the other books.

And I noticed that larger font size wasn't mentioned, so I assume it will remain the same. I was hoping for the larger font size in both the M&T and CKG as well, since my old eyes can't see the print without glasses, but the new PH I can (praise Bejeebus).
The preview on the projects page lists it as 150+ pages, so that would indicate the upgrade in font for sure Eric.

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