Opposed Rolls

[dcfitch]

I know the rules state that there a re no opposed rolls in C&C, but my only contention with the SIEGE engine is the way this is handled. I prefer a system sort of like this: on an opposed roll (STR vs. STR, etc.), both characters roll and add their ability modifier. If the ability in question is a prime, then that character can add his level as a modifier as well. If it is not a prime, then only the ability mod is used. My problem is this: what if one of the opponents is a monster and therefore has no specific ability modifiers? I supposed this is why the rules are written the way they are. What do you all use? Rules as written or something of your own?

[Arduin]

What do you all use? Rules as written or something of your own?

As written. I've tried a myriad of different ways but the RAW works best for us. Most of the time it is combat anyway. Opposed rolls are better for stuff like tug o war or arm wrestling. Many things require no roll. Only a GM decision.

[Treebore]

I've given monsters ability modifiers since day 1. Not ALL of them mind you, but Ogres, Giants, Dragons, Vampires, etc... as well as any Orc, Goblin, Bugbear, etc... I decided was exceptional in some way, usually STR. To me even monsters are like Human(oid) NPC's, and will have whatever attributes I deem appropriate for what I want the encounter to be like.

[pawndream]

I keep things simple, I always allow a PC/Monster to add their level to a SIEGE check. I sometimes use opposed checks, if it makes sense. I don't factor in monster's ability scores. I use their level only.

This method gives PCs an edge, but that doesn't bother me. The game is about the PCs, not the monsters.

[dcfitch]

Hmmm....as written works. I'll probably stick to them concerning this, but may piddle a little more. Maybe an opposed roll vs a monster will exclude ability mods and add the level/HD if the ability is a prime? Dunno...but then again, according to the Troll Lords I'm ONLY A MIST ELF!

[Treebore]

Take it from a Mogryl, run your game however it makes you happiest with your results.

[dcfitch]

Solid advice, good Mogrl!

[Captain_K]

If you want the monsters to have something but are unsure what treat their HD like levels and their Save as their three primes. ie P is STR, DEX and COM and M is INT, WIS and CHA. A simple start and edit from there. If you are arm wrestling an Ogre for a key to the cave then most Ogres will have STR as a prime and likely get to add their HD like your fighter will add his.

I THINK for any roll you add your level not just if its a prime??? Prime should affect your base chance by about +6 relative to a non-prime.