Is the Codex of Erde required or will it be replaced?

lecruit · Post by **lecruit** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:40 pm

Should I purchase the Codex or are future releases planned that will revise the content? I've seen the Aihdre: After Winter's Dark product but its not nearly as large as the Codex, so Im a little confused.

Thanks for the info!

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:06 pm

Erde is being revised. As to an expected release date of this material, I really cant say off hand.

The "A" series of modules is set in Erde, however, so that might be a place to start? ^_^
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Inkpot · Post by **Inkpot** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:08 pm

The Codex isn't *required* to play Castles & Crusades as it is simply a setting in which to place your own campaigns, but I would heartily recommend it. The setting was originally written for the D20 system and is currently being revised and updated for the Castles & Crusades system. The After Winter's Dark book is a lot smaller, but from what I've read they are going to be packing tons of material in there. And the book is only (currently, heh) meant to be a "primer" for the larger campaign setting that will be completed whenever the Trolls can see the tops of their desks again.
Hope that helps. For what it's worth, I say buy the Codex AND the AWD book when it comes out. Can't have too much Erde/Aihrde!!
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:12 pm

lecruit wrote:
Should I purchase the Codex or are future releases planned that will revise the content? I've seen the Aihdre: After Winter's Dark product but its not nearly as large as the Codex, so Im a little confused.

Thanks for the info!

I think you can't go wrong buying the Codex of Erde, no matter what happens. Right now it's $10 on the TLG mainsite. It's a tremendous campaign world and worth the full retail price, IMO.

The AWD - Aihrde book will only be 28, 32 or mebbe 36 pages and so, will be a mighty streamlined update that will probably be a nice addendum to the Codex, but not necessarily replace it.

You may want to read the thread on this in the Upcoming Projects forum.

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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:23 am

Rhuvein wrote:
I think you can't go wrong buying the Codex of Erde, no matter what happens. Right now it's $10 on the TLG mainsite. It's a tremendous campaign world and worth the full retail price, IMO.

The AWD - Aihrde book will only be 28, 32 or mebbe 36 pages and so, will be a mighty streamlined update that will probably be a nice addendum to the Codex, but not necessarily replace it.

You may want to read the thread on this in the Upcoming Projects forum.

Buy it. Even if they update it, it is definately worth the $10. Hell, as Rhu said, it's "worth the full retail price."

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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:35 pm

I have one and i would say it is worth getting. Even with the C&C AWD coming and the new setting material coming it will be worth the price to get.

As to the codex being replaced, eventually the new AWD and the red and white box sets will replace it but possibly not for a long time.
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Maliki · Post by **Maliki** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:40 pm

I agree with the others, buy it.
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Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:12 pm

I just recieved a copy & no doubt that it's worth the full price. At $10 .......
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lecruit · Post by **lecruit** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:05 am

Ive just received the confirmation email for the product. I should have it in a week.

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:02 am

You're gonna love this book!

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Zudrak · Post by **Zudrak** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:13 pm

Rigon wrote:
You're gonna love this book!

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Indeed. Even though I am sticking with Greyhawk (as I am finding it hard to leave since I can now use all of my old notes and such with the C&C game), Erde/Aihrde is a great setting. I've read the Codex and intend on using the setting eventually.
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baran_i_kanu · Post by **baran_i_kanu** » Tue May 08, 2007 3:40 pm

just got this in the mail today!

by a happy coincidence i had called into work for the Hell of It not a half hour before.

this book looks awesome. i can't wait to dive into it.

later,

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:31 pm

And Steve just announced to day that he is finishing up on the After Winter's Dark primer.

Looks like the Aihrde fans have a lot to look forward to very soon. http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/cnc/8016.html
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:40 pm

baran_i_kanu wrote:
just got this in the mail today!

by a happy coincidence i had called into work for the Hell of It not a half hour before.

this book looks awesome. i can't wait to dive into it.

later,

dave

You'll enjoy it. It is probably one of the best RPG books I've ever read.

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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Tue May 08, 2007 5:42 pm

Omote wrote:
And Steve just announced to day that he is finishing up on the After Winter's Dark primer.

Looks like the Aihrde fans have a lot to look forward to very soon. http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/cnc/8016.html

FREAKIN' AWSOME!!! Now all I have to do is talk the wife into letting me get it. That shouldn't be a problem as long as it stays at the $8.95 price they have listed.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:55 pm

Be sure to read the "authors intro" or Forward, or whatever the heck it is called. It tells you important stuff about where the Erde setting came from and "design decisions" that were made.

Like how the dwarvees are based heavily on Germans, the elves are French, etc... What to do about map scales and population sizes, etc...

There is a lot of grammar issues, layout its not great, but the content is definitely "top of the line" in my opinion.

Pick up the "Winter Dark" module as well. Especially if you like Runes.

baran_i_kanu · Post by **baran_i_kanu** » Tue May 08, 2007 10:56 pm

Treebore wrote:
Be sure to read the "authors intro" or Forward, or whatever the heck it is called. It tells you important stuff about where the Erde setting came from and "design decisions" that were made.

Like how the dwarvees are based heavily on Germans, the elves are French, etc... What to do about map scales and population sizes, etc...

QFT.

i was going to breeze through this section as i usually do for rpg books but a quick scan showed me it was worth the read.

very cool start to this book.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Wed May 09, 2007 1:26 am

Rigon wrote:
You'll enjoy it. It is probably one of the best RPG books I've ever read.

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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Wed May 09, 2007 1:51 am

Treebore wrote:
Pick up the "Winter Dark" module as well. Especially if you like Runes.

On my list.

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:24 am

Winter Dark module is becoming harder and harder to find. However, I do believe the Trolls still have some of this inventory left on their shelf.

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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:30 am

Haven't got to it yet. I've been busy with Bergholt and Heart of glass but it is approaching the top of the pile.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:17 am

Omote wrote:
Winter Dark module is becoming harder and harder to find. However, I do believe the Trolls still have some of this inventory left on their shelf.

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I'm still wondering if this will be one of the mods that will be converted to C&C?

Hope so.
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:48 am

Rhuvein wrote:
I'm still wondering if this will be one of the mods that will be converted to C&C?

Hope so.

It'd be nice if the Trolls would pop in here and let us know one way or the other. I tempted to hold of on getting it, until I find out. I hate buying multiple copies of things.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:36 am

Rigon wrote:
It'd be nice if the Trolls would pop in here and let us know one way or the other. I tempted to hold of on getting it, until I find out. I hate buying multiple copies of things.

R-

Isn't "After Winter Dark" related? If not they should still put all the Runemark info in "After Winter Dark". Plus more new stuff.

Hmmmm. If I make GenCOn I think I should have a Runemark proposal ready. Worked for me last year.

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:36 am

Treebore wrote:
Isn't "After Winter Dark" related? If not they should still put all the Runemark info in "After Winter Dark". Plus more new stuff.
Hmmmm. If I make GenCOn I think I should have a Runemark proposal ready. Worked for me last year.

Then get thee to the Con!

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aethelulf22 · Post by **aethelulf22** » Thu May 10, 2007 12:34 pm

I've scoured the net in an attempt to find After Winter Dark but to no avail. Where can I get a copy? It's not listed on the Troll Lord Games product page...

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Thu May 10, 2007 12:38 pm

I know of at least one copy at my FLGS. It's not being discounted (as I've already asked), but there is at least one option for you. Here's the store's website:
www.warzonematrix.com/

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aethelulf22 · Post by **aethelulf22** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:33 pm

Thanks. I'll give them a try and hope they post to the UK

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:44 pm

I found mine on Ebay buy direct for about $5 US plus shipping.

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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Thu May 10, 2007 4:44 pm

aethelulf22 wrote:
I've scoured the net in an attempt to find After Winter Dark but to no avail. Where can I get a copy? It's not listed on the Troll Lord Games product page...

It's still listed in the Complete Product Listing (a Rich Text Format file) which you can find under the ordering tab even though it's a bit out of date. They *may* have a few copies left ... product code 1001 with a $5 list price.

Just for clarification though: 'After Winter Dark' is the primer for the campaign setting and came out before the Codex of Erde. The 'Winter Runes' is the module/sourcebook which includes the Runemark class.

It has always been my understanding that the upcoming 'AWD' accessory for C&C will work much like the original one in terms of providing a new and clearer primer for the setting. I'm certainly curious if the classes and races which are found in their d20 sourcebooks or the Codex will be in this accessory.

Then again, aren't there the Erde and Inzae box sets still to come? Maybe those would include some of these in greater detail.

Don't you guys love speculation?

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