Gods & Demons?

writer30506 · Post by **writer30506** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:58 pm

Sorry if this has been elsewhere addressed, but I just got Castles & Crusades and Monsters & Treasures today.

No demons in the monsters! Argh! It's like 2nd edition all over again... lol.

Seriously- the M&T book mentions a Gods & Demons sourcebook. Well, all excited I came hither to find this tome... But it is no where to be found.

My question, then is: Has this book been cancelled? If so, why? If not, when-oh-when shal it be released?

Thanks!

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 pm

Its... in development. ^_^
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writer30506 · Post by **writer30506** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:12 pm

Thanks! Gods-speed on that!

Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:06 pm

writer30506 wrote:
Thanks! Gods-speed on that!

Amen!
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:07 pm

Demons were removed by editorial/managerial caveat, and not because they were not submitted, though when I was informed, I removed them from the manuscript. I have a general idea why they were not included, and I understand it somewhat, but do feel the gaming community would've been better served with a few more demonics in the main monster book (replacing things like the PHB races; I think they're superfluous, as they're already in the PHB... but that wasn't my decision, either.) Anyway, the reason I prefer, and the one I believe is the ultimate one, is that a small section (3-4 pages) is not enough for something like demons. They need a whole book to even come close to ding justice, and for that, I am glad they are not heavily represented in M&T, despite a personal desire to have maybe 2-3 in there.

That all said, I expect, and hope, the G&D tome is something you all want to have, and it strikes a chord of something marvelous. I'll be doing my best to make that happen...

pineappleleader · Post by **pineappleleader** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:35 am

There is a free download, Haunted Highlands Chapter 4 Deities of the Karboskian Marches, available. It has Deities, but, alas, no demons.
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Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:37 am

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That all said, I expect, and hope, the G&D tome is something you all want to have, and it strikes a chord of something marvelous. I'll be doing my best to make that happen...

I CAN"T WAIT! Break out the magic wand, whip, or good ol Oak club. Which ever is more useful on trolls..

Didn't GG just put out a gods book?
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rabindranath72 · Post by **rabindranath72** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:01 am

Perhaps a random generation method like in the 1e DMG, plus some examples of the most "infamous" demons/devil could have been fit in two or three pages in M&T. Oh well, we will have to wait.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:16 am

Heh, my method of randomization is longer than 3 pages...

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:44 pm

The excruciating thing is that Gods & Demons hasn't even shown up on the radar as to when it might be released! I would definitely like to see Serl's 3+ page writeup.

However, Gods & Demons... may be a long, LONG time away. Just my theory.

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johns · Post by **johns** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:02 pm

I just use the AD&D Monster Manual, Monster Manual II, and Fiend Folio.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:16 pm

johns wrote:
I just use the AD&D Monster Manual, Monster Manual II, and Fiend Folio.

WHAT?!?!!? BLASPHEMY!!!
Just kidding, I do too.
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:25 pm

Omote wrote:
The excruciating thing is that Gods & Demons hasn't even shown up on the radar as to when it might be released! I would definitely like to see Serl's 3+ page writeup.

However, Gods & Demons... may be a long, LONG time away. Just my theory.

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I'll second this request.

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johns · Post by **johns** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:23 pm

I think when we request things like CK Guides and monster books from the Trolls, they just push them back in the release schedule ... you know, because they can.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:49 pm

johns wrote:
I think when we request things like CK Guides and monster books from the Trolls, they just push them back in the release schedule ... you know, because they can.

*shakes fists at the heavens*
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:47 am

johns wrote:
I think when we request things like CK Guides and monster books from the Trolls, they just push them back in the release schedule ... you know, because they can.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:37 am

Yeah, the more you want it, the longer it takes.... muahaha.

rabindranath72 · Post by **rabindranath72** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:20 pm

serleran wrote:
Heh, my method of randomization is longer than 3 pages...

As long as a full book of demons and devils

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