Aihrde/Erde...why bother?

[slimykuotoan]

K- here's where I ask someone to sell me on the setting -if anyone's bored and doesn't have anything to do, etc.

I need a place that's ancient -like Greyhawk- with barbarians, eastern peoples, desert guys, mysteries, and grim gods that everyone's somewhat afraid of (ie. not like Xena where everyone knows the gods and some are friendly).

Is Aihrde/Erde for mhe/me?

[Julian Grimm]

I fell in love with it and I swore by FR for years. Airdhe is really what you make of it. I think the Codex is still $5 so you won't loose much at all by getting it.

However, for what you're describing the upcoming Inzae may be better.

And yes that is a hint to the Trolls for some Inzae tidbits!!!
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[DangerDwarf]

slimykuotoan wrote:
I need a place that's ancient -like Greyhawk- with barbarians, eastern peoples, desert guys, mysteries, and grim gods that everyone's somewhat afraid of

You just described the Wilderlands.

[Omote]

DangerDwarf wrote:
You just described the Wilderlands.

Spot-on. Spot-on.

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[slimykuotoan]

Wilderlands?

[gideon_thorne]

slimykuotoan wrote:
Wilderlands?

Its a 3e product from Necromancer Games. An updated Judges Guild setting. The stat blocks are minimalistic though, so its easily usable with C&C rules.

As to the original question. If you already have any of the A series of modules, you're already aware of the type of setting for Aihrde.

If you get Vahkhund, you'll see an Inzae setting.

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[DangerDwarf]

slimykuotoan wrote:
Wilderlands?

Scroll to the bottom of the forums. Wilderlands will be coming to C&C.

For d20 version (which I highly recommend, even if it is d20) can be found by Necromancer games. Wilderlands of High Fantasy, City State of the Invincible Overlord and the Players Guide to the WIlderlands. You CANNOT got wrong with these products and they fit your description EXACTLY.

[Omote]

from my limited perspective, Erde seems like a very "historical" kind of setting, in a fantastic way. If you read through the Codex of Erde there is so much history to the setting, you'd swear that it's been around for 30 years. I'm not comparing Erde to our own history in anyway, but there is a "grandness" or a very "living" feel to Erde that I have not often (if ever) seen on other RPG settings.

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[Inkpot]

Erde doesn't have your eastern peoples or deserts. But, in my opinion, it the greatest campaign setting in existence.
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[Tadhg]

DangerDwarf wrote:
You just described the Wilderlands.

Heh, I think he's also describe Aihrde to a large degree as well. Unklar and his minions are certainly some of the grimest that I've seen. I like the Aihrde Pantheon very much. It does seem similar to Greyhawk which also did a great job.

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[Tadhg]

Inkpot wrote:
Erde doesn't have your eastern peoples or deserts. But, in my opinion, it the greatest campaign setting in existence.
Ink

Well we still haven't seen all of it yet. I'm still wondering what exactly is east and northeast of the Blacktooth Ridge. We've only heard mentioned - Orc nations.

I remember Peter's new map in progress. There seems to be a great deal of land on Aihrde that hasn't been seen or detailed yet.
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[Maliki]

Rhuvein wrote:
Heh, I think he's also describe Aihrde to a large degree as well. Unklar and his minions are certainly some of the grimest that I've seen. I like the Aihrde Pantheon very much. It does seem similar to Greyhawk which also did a great job.

I agree, to a point Aihrde is a great setting (my favorite). Unklar is indeed very grim and dark, and feared (he has slain kings and heroes alike) and has walked the face of Aihrde, and ruled it for a 1000 years. IMHO Aihrde feels alive, all the different regions, and peoples they all seem real and like they all belong, I never had that feel with Greyhawk(or the Realms or the Known World). While other settings have good ideas and interesting features they seemed flat to me.

Overall I like the Aihdre patheon, I dropped the gods from our own mytholgy (Tefnut and such).
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[DangerDwarf]

The Aihrde pantheon is probably my only dislike about the setting. Unklar kicks ass but the rest just seems lacking to me for some reason.

The again, a setting's pantheon is, for some reason, the place I nitpick the most. *shrugs*

[Inkpot]

I agree with DD - the only power in the Aihrdean pantheon with any personality is Unklar. And I *STILL* don't get wtf happened to Mordius. Is she alive? Dead? Both? Neither?

Still, Aihrde for teh win.
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[Tadhg]

Inkpot wrote:
I agree with DD - the only power in the Aihrdean pantheon with any personality is Unklar. And I *STILL* don't get wtf happened to Mordius. Is she alive? Dead? Both? Neither?

Still, Aihrde for teh win.
Ink

Mordius was killed by her mad brother Thorax. She was one of the three Supreme Deities along Thorax and her other brother Corthain.

Unklar does indeed get a lot of "airtime" as it were, but don't forget he has been banished to the Void after having his horn cleaved off by the Elf Hero - Setiva using the sword Discerpo!

Another deity that is prominent in the A series is, Wenefar, the Faerie Queen. Her faerie folk and followers are everywhere.

Poseidon and Aristobulus have been mentioned in my campaign. I hope to work in, Nuluk-Kiz-Din, the Troll Lord Mongroul and Dolgan who Steve wrote about in the last Crusader.

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[serleran]

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need a place that's ancient -like Greyhawk- with barbarians, eastern peoples, desert guys, mysteries, and grim gods that everyone's somewhat afraid of (ie. not like Xena where everyone knows the gods and some are friendly).

Sounds like a small part of the Forgotten Realms, Wilderlands, or any number of other settings... especially Dark Sun where there are no gods (there are only Dragon Kings.)

So, I'd say: use Dark Sun.

[Maliki]

Right now, the only gods I use for my Aihrde campaign are,
Augustus (He really suited the type of cleric one player wanted to play)
Dolgan (For a pair of new dwarven characters, plus I really, liked his backstory)
Wenefar (I liked her from the first time I read Rising Knight, plus she has such a strong following in the Blacktooth Ridge area)
St. Luther (A paladin in the current party, follows him)

Others may be added as needed, but right now that is all I need.
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[DangerDwarf]

serleran wrote:
So, I'd say: use Dark Sun.

Dark Sun was a really cool idea, I just hated the heavily psionic nature of it. 2nd edition psionics sucked.

[serleran]

Yeah, but it can be dropped easily enough, as well, and just the setting/flavor used. Of course, if one wanted, they could use the psionics stuff, too... but I'd not use any of the D&D variants.

[DangerDwarf]

serleran wrote:
Yeah, but it can be dropped easily enough, as well, and just the setting/flavor used.

True enough. When we used to play Dark Sun back in the AD&D days, we minimized the psionics of the setting. I might have to pull those novels off the shelf and give 'em a read again. Was a pretty cool setting.

Sadira was HAWT!

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[Treebore]

slimykuotoan wrote:
K- here's where I ask someone to sell me on the setting -if anyone's bored and doesn't have anything to do, etc.

I need a place that's ancient -like Greyhawk- with barbarians, eastern peoples, desert guys, mysteries, and grim gods that everyone's somewhat afraid of (ie. not like Xena where everyone knows the gods and some are friendly).

Is Aihrde/Erde for mhe/me?

I fell in love with Erde because of its heavy influences of medievel Europe. Dwarves are Germanic, Elves are French (I think, been awhile since I thought about this), and I can't remember the other inluences I saw. Plus I have put Greyhawk along the eastern edge o the Erde map (I got rid of the wastes, just kept the Hellfurnace Mountains and their impassability to explain the ignorance of "whats on the other side". I don't remember which setting I have to the West. I think its DCC 35 from Goodman. It may also be the eastern side of Faerun (Rokugan for me). I would have to look at my map again.

[Maliki]

Treebore wrote:
I fell in love with Erde because of its heavy influences of medievel Europe. Dwarves are Germanic, Elves are French (I think, been awhile since I thought about this), and I can't remember the other inluences I saw. Plus I have put Greyhawk along the eastern edge o the Erde map (I got rid of the wastes, just kept the Hellfurnace Mountains and their impassability to explain the ignorance of "whats on the other side". I don't remember which setting I have to the West. I think its DCC 35 from Goodman. It may also be the eastern side of Faerun (Rokugan for me). I would have to look at my map again.

Thats a pretty big campaign world. Do the PCs get from one area to another?
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[Treebore]

Maliki wrote:
Thats a pretty big campaign world. Do the PCs get from one area to another?

They have gotten to GH via Fromkins Pass in the Blacktooth Ridge (When I ran "Against the Giants" for them). They are planning to open up the pass so that caravans can make it through. Unfortunately the Withc Queen of Unklar has gone to war and they are trying to help stop her offensive.

Yes, my campaign world is huge. It has every setting I own that isn't a world of its own, like Oathbound is. Most can be gotten to by sea voyages or arduous over land travel, such as Fromkin's Pass/Hellfire Furnace mountain chain.