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I couldn't find an answer for two questions:
1.) I'm assuming a monk going beyond 13th level contiues to get an AC bonus in the pattern hinted at on the table (reaching 16 AC by 20th), but what about unarmed damage and speed?
2.) For all classes, I assume that 13th and beyond continues with the same bonus to hit points, but the BTH continues on whatever pattern has been set. (Thank you Troll Lords for setting up easy patterns!)
Monks and 13+levels ...
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Its really up to the CK. You can add or subtract things as you see fit. I find that C&C games are the most fun a levels 5-8, and anything beyond that seems either too easy or way too hard for the PCs. Somone (mayber Serleran or Traveller?) did a great write up on "Epic" characters (beyond 12th lvl).
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The answers?
1. Yes the AC progresses in the same pattern. I would consider speeding it up to be AC 20 by 20th level to keep the Monk hanging in there and being able to avoid being hit well enough to stay an effective fighter.
I don't know about unarmed damage and speed, but considering things like this are similiar to 3E I would bet that yes, they continue to keep going up. Look at the 3E Monk if you want some kind of written guideline to reference. If you don't have the books the SRD is free and on-line.
2. Thats real easy! Yes, they continue, unless you want to alter it.
1. Yes the AC progresses in the same pattern. I would consider speeding it up to be AC 20 by 20th level to keep the Monk hanging in there and being able to avoid being hit well enough to stay an effective fighter.
I don't know about unarmed damage and speed, but considering things like this are similiar to 3E I would bet that yes, they continue to keep going up. Look at the 3E Monk if you want some kind of written guideline to reference. If you don't have the books the SRD is free and on-line.
2. Thats real easy! Yes, they continue, unless you want to alter it.
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
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Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
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anglefish wrote:
Reminds me of my 3.0 games.
Hopefully the difference is that beyond 8th I won't have to spend hours making up the PCs.
It takes very little time at all. Spell selection for spell casters will be your biggest time eater. For example I had an encounter recently where the players fought a 10thlvl Cleric and a 12th lvl Ranger. Each one took about 30 min to create, and that includes selection of their magic items and creation of backstory/motivation.
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Finally got some free time and here's my suggested advancement list
Monks expanded table:
Level Unarmed Damage1 AC Bonus Unarmored Speed Bonus
1st 1d4 10
2nd 1d6 11
3rd 1d6 12 40 ft.
4th 1d6 12 40 ft.
5th 1d8 13 50 ft.
6th 1d8 13 50 ft.
7th 1d8 13 50 ft.
8th 1d8 14 50 ft.
9th 1d10 14 50 ft.
10th 1d10 14 60 ft.
11th 1d10 14 60 ft.
12th 1d10 15 60 ft.
13 2d6 15 60 ft.
14 2d6 15 60 ft.
15 2d6 15 60 ft.
16 2d6 16 60 ft.
17 2d8 16 60 ft.
18 2d8 16 60 ft.
19 2d8 16 60 ft.
20 2d10 17 70 ft.
Monks expanded table:
Level Unarmed Damage1 AC Bonus Unarmored Speed Bonus
1st 1d4 10
2nd 1d6 11
3rd 1d6 12 40 ft.
4th 1d6 12 40 ft.
5th 1d8 13 50 ft.
6th 1d8 13 50 ft.
7th 1d8 13 50 ft.
8th 1d8 14 50 ft.
9th 1d10 14 50 ft.
10th 1d10 14 60 ft.
11th 1d10 14 60 ft.
12th 1d10 15 60 ft.
13 2d6 15 60 ft.
14 2d6 15 60 ft.
15 2d6 15 60 ft.
16 2d6 16 60 ft.
17 2d8 16 60 ft.
18 2d8 16 60 ft.
19 2d8 16 60 ft.
20 2d10 17 70 ft.
anglefish wrote:
Finally got some free time and here's my suggested advancement list
Monks expanded table:
Level Unarmed Damage1 AC Bonus Unarmored Speed Bonus
1st 1d4 10
2nd 1d6 11
3rd 1d6 12 40 ft.
4th 1d6 12 40 ft.
5th 1d8 13 50 ft.
6th 1d8 13 50 ft.
7th 1d8 13 50 ft.
8th 1d8 14 50 ft.
9th 1d10 14 50 ft.
10th 1d10 14 60 ft.
11th 1d10 14 60 ft.
12th 1d10 15 60 ft.
13 2d6 15 60 ft.
14 2d6 15 60 ft.
15 2d6 15 60 ft.
16 2d6 16 60 ft.
17 2d8 16 60 ft.
18 2d8 16 60 ft.
19 2d8 16 60 ft.
20 2d10 17 70 ft.
I'll have to show this to the CK if my monk makes it this high. (Not likely since we have only played 2 times in the lost two months.)
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Combat_Kyle wrote:
Its really up to the CK. You can add or subtract things as you see fit. I find that C&C games are the most fun a levels 5-8, and anything beyond that seems either too easy or way too hard for the PCs. Somone (mayber Serleran or Traveller?) did a great write up on "Epic" characters (beyond 12th lvl).
Wasn't me, but Monkish special ability progression above 12th level would go something like this, following the pattern of the table shown in the book.
13 - AC15, 1d10, 1d8, 60
14 - AC15, 1d12, 1d8, 60
15 - AC15, 1d12, 1d8, 70
16 - AC15, 1d12, 1d8, 70
17 - AC16, 1d12, 1d8, 70
18 - AC16, 1d12, 1d10, 70
19 - AC16, 1d12, 1d10, 70
20 - AC16, 1d20, 1d10, 80
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