White Wolf Goes to War

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:56 am

I found this to be amusing: Exalted - Graduate Your Game
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:49 pm

Very... I also find it amusing that they are accepting 3.5 PHB's but not 3.0. Wonder what they'll do with them all?

Recycling... doing the world a small favor?

Burning... just to be more 'dramatic'?

Re-selling... to cover their printing costs?

I wonder...

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:54 pm

Hmm, bold. I hope it works out for WWS.

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Yamo · Post by **Yamo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:54 pm

Ah, trying to boost the no doubt flagging interest in their obscure buckets-o-dice anime abortion by talking down to D&Ders.

Some thing never change.

Brutorz Bill · Post by **Brutorz Bill** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:08 pm

Matthew wrote:
I found this to be amusing: Exalted - Graduate Your Game

Rather amusing indeed!

Metal · Post by **Metal** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:09 pm

I read on Ogre Cave
http://ogrecave.com/

"participating retailers must take all D&D 3.5 Players Handbooks that are exchanged, tear out the pages, and return the full cover with the consumer forms. "

They're destroying them.

Yamo · Post by **Yamo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:10 pm

Funny how you never see this kind of crap with board games. Nobody ever proselytizes about how you need to "mature/graduate/evolve" from Risk to Trivial Pursuit.

moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:33 pm

Metal wrote:
I read on Ogre Cave
http://ogrecave.com/

"participating retailers must take all D&D 3.5 Players Handbooks that are exchanged, tear out the pages, and return the full cover with the consumer forms. "

They're destroying them.

On the one hand, I can understand... it'll be a heck of a lot cheaper to return just the covers. At least the pages can be properly recycled. However, there's a large part of me that find the willful destruction of books to be deplorable.

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jfall · Post by **jfall** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:43 pm

Interesting marketing ploy...

Reminds me of what this pizza place in Australia did a couple years back. They advertised on the radio that if you brought in a yellow pages ad for any competitor's pizza that you'd get a free pizza. About 6 months later not a single ad for any other pizza place could be found in any yellow pages anywhere in the city.

Sneaky... brilliant... underhanded. But it worked. Only time will tell if this bid by WW will have the same effect.
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Post by **Breakdaddy** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:43 pm

I hope it works out for them despite the fact that I found Exalted to be one of the most rules heavy and powergamer-friendly systems I've seen yet. Not my thing, but good for anyone into the sort of play it supports.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:35 pm

If it did not involve the destruction of a book, something I find loathsome, I would be tempted to buy a cheap copy off eBay and turn it in so I could get a free copy of something else (well, almost free, anyway.) But, no, they have to go and rip all the pages out, rendering the book mostly useless (sure, sure, it can still be read, but... its got no cover! Yuck!) Oh well, even I don't hate d20 that much.

NulSyn · Post by **NulSyn** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:49 pm

Yamo wrote:
Funny how you never see this kind of crap with board games. Nobody ever proselytizes about how you need to "mature/graduate/evolve" from Risk to Trivial Pursuit.

Is this a joke?

Go to BoardgameGeek you'll see it all over the place.

Closer to topic: I think its a conspiracy for the WW guys to make there 3.5 collections worth more!
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Yamo · Post by **Yamo** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:52 pm

NulSyn wrote:
Is this a joke?

Go to BoardgameGeek you'll see it all over the place.

I guess I still have too much faith in humanity.

deimos3428 · Post by **deimos3428** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:58 pm

S'funny. I was talking to my brother just yesterday about how his group always wanted to play "Werewolf" years ago...

The members of his group: 3 Vampires, a Mage, and a Changeling. It turns out everyone wanted to be the "cool outsider", nobody actually wanted to play a werewolf.

deimos3428 · Post by **deimos3428** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:11 pm

As for why they might be destroying the books, i think it's analogous to a "stripped" or "remaindered" book. They don't want anyone thinking they're doing something underhanded with the books they receive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripped_book

Post by **Fiffergrund** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:54 pm

The destruction just prevents dishonest retailers from reselling the swapped books. It's totally understandable.

And honestly, I don't have a problem with seeing these books destroyed. First, they were originally bought and paid for, so WotC made its buck. Second, they become the property of White Wolf once the trade is made, so they can do with them as they wish, and third, the books hold no overriding philosophical or societal value that would make me adverse to their destruction. This prevents their resale as used books that would continue to cut into White Wolf's bottom line.

Destroying books isn't bad. Books are just things. The status of being a "book" doesn't make it a holy relic that should not be destroyed. The contents of the book define it, not its physical form. Destroying books for idealogical purposes, for censorship, or to destroy knowledge contained within them is another thing entirely. That's not what's happening here, though.
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CharlieRock · Post by **CharlieRock** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:15 pm

That almost made me want to trade in my 3.5PHB.

That is ... if I already hadn't bought Exalted awhile back ago.
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SilverFire85 · Post by **SilverFire85** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:21 pm

This is rather amusing, but I think I'm going to hang on to my 3.5 PHB. Even though all 3.5 stuff will no longer be available once the dreaded 4E comes out, my group and I are still going to run it. Plus, no one in my group is willing to run Exalted. I wouldn't mind it, but I started to read Exalted before the new second edition came out, and I just couldn't wrap my little head around it.

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