Holy freaking.....

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:37 pm

Did you guys catch on the news today that gas WILL be $4.00/gallon in just a few weeks?
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:46 pm

Makes me glad I don't own a car.
The next car I intend to own, wont run on gas, thats for sure.
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pactmaster · Post by **pactmaster** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:50 pm

About the same as a gallon of milk. Price creep has become full blown price gouge. Last weekend I was at a food wholesale store and they were raising prices, one item went from $14 to $21. Just like that. No $16 then $18, straight to $21. And the employee couldn't believe it himself. Times are getting tough.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:27 pm

I work from home, so the price of gas means very little to me... but, there are moments. Just wait until it gets worse.

Coleston the Cavalier · Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:42 pm

Maybe now riding my honda scooter in the rain for three hours (there and back) to a meeting on Thrusday will seem like its worth it (117 mpg with atop speed of 40mph). Maybe not.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:22 pm

http://www.aptera.com/details.php

Time to trade up to something that tells the oil industry where to stuff it...^_~`
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Coleston the Cavalier · Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:30 pm

gideon_thorne wrote:
http://www.aptera.com/details.php

Time to trade up to something that tells the oil industry where to stuff it...^_~`

1000 mpg, 400mpg, 130 mpg sounds pretty good.

I wonder when the oil companies will have the designer killed and use the men in black to erase all knowledge of that project?
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:34 pm

Coleston the Cavalier wrote:
1000 mpg, 400mpg, 130 mpg sounds pretty good.

I wonder when the oil companies will have the designer killed and use the men in black to erase all knowledge of that project?

No need to do that yet. The management of APtera seems to be shooting themselves in the foot. Word has it in auto magazines (of course they could just be lying) that their design doesn't meet basic safety design requirements for impact crumple zones and the like.

Still, as soon as its sale spreads to AZ I'll be buying one if I can afford to.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:12 pm

Treebore wrote:
Word has it in auto magazines (of course they could just be lying) that their design doesn't meet basic safety design requirements for impact crumple zones and the like.

A design never does, when it costs people money... like the oil industry. ^_~`
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angelius · Post by **angelius** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:25 am

meh...if I worried about gas prices I wouldn't have bought a 3.5L 270hp car :p ....

ps. I guess that made me sound like a jerk.
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Harry Joy · Post by **Harry Joy** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:19 am

pactmaster wrote:
About the same as a gallon of milk...

This is something that continuously amazes me. That folks have been paying through the teats for milk for ages it seems, yet when they mention prices to me, it's always either gas or eggs I hear about. No one gripes about milk. Eggs, well, that always gets me, because right now eggs are around 2 bucks a dozen, some more, some less. And checking my history.... 50 years ago eggs were about 1 buck a dozen. Not bad.

The other thing that boggles my mind is when folks, and I hear this ALL the time, go ballistic over the post office raising prices a penny or two. Yet I never hear them gripe about their heating bills tripling.

seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:28 am

Harry Joy wrote:
This is something that continuously amazes me. That folks have been paying through the teats for milk for ages it seems, yet when they mention prices to me, it's always either gas or eggs I hear about. No one gripes about milk. Eggs, well, that always gets me, because right now eggs are around 2 bucks a dozen, some more, some less. And checking my history.... 50 years ago eggs were about 1 buck a dozen. Not bad.

The other thing that boggles my mind is when folks, and I hear this ALL the time, go ballistic over the post office raising prices a penny or two. Yet I never hear them gripe about their heating bills tripling.

Sadly its because less people drink milk nowadays -

Unless you live in Wisconsin, where teenagers still ask for milk before soft drinks lol - of course here milk is usually cheaper because this is dairy country.

Gas on the other hand....
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jamesmishler · Post by **jamesmishler** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:37 am

$4/gallon gas? Heh. By late September it will be $6/gallon. Mark my words, you heard it here first.
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pactmaster · Post by **pactmaster** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:54 am

I drink milk in my tea/coffee, as does my wife, plus we cook a lot, not just microwave meals, but actually cook from scratch, so milk raising bugs me. Milk was around $2 a gallon here last year, now it is $4+. Gas and milking are skipping together at the head of the line on price gouging.
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Ghul · Post by **Ghul** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:57 am

Better learn how to throw a boomerang like the feral kid in Mad Max 2.

pactmaster · Post by **pactmaster** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:04 am

After the ammunition, arrows and crossbow bolts run out.

Since I lived in Sumatra years ago I did pick up the ability to eat most anything. There is a fruit from S.E. Asia that Andrew Zimmern, the Bizarre Foods guy on the travel channel wouldn't eat and that guy eats the brains out of baby pigs. I got by on the fruit, beer and a lot of mystery meat.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:34 am

Gah I drive 30 miles one way to work. Yes I know I could move closer but that means having neighbors and I don't like that idea one bit.

Oh and milk is better than soda any day.
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Danger · Post by **Danger** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:09 am

Stuff like this is driving me (hah, joke there) to swap knobbies for slicks on the ol' MTB and get ready to pedal my butt to the workplace.

And as far as the milk thing goes, my wife and kids burn through several gallons weekly. Good for them; bad for my wallet.

bighara · Post by **bighara** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:44 am

Man, I wish someone would release a hybrid mini-van. I got two kids and need bigger than a Prius or Camry. And I won't own a SUV (even a hybrid) on moral grounds.

Post by **Fiffergrund** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:40 pm

What cracks me up is this:

One of the local gas stations has a "gas sale" every Saturday where they knock 3 cents per gallon off the price. People will line up 10 cars deep or more to save their 3 cents per gallon.

The problem is they don't seem to do the math. If they have a 15 gallon tank and they fill the whole thing, they are only saving 45 cents from a normal day! Yet they'll drive out of their way and wait in line with their cars running to "save" that 45 cents.

At the same time, federal and state taxes on gasoline add .50 per gallon to the total price of gas here. That adds 7 bucks to the cost of the 15 gallon tank, but no one even peeps about that.

What the hell?
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Harry Joy · Post by **Harry Joy** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:01 pm

I rather dislike it when I see a term like "price-gouging" tossed about. Price-gouging is when supply is very limited, usually due to some crisis, and a handful of retailers get together to artificially raise prices in order to line their own pockets.

With gasoline, milk, and other similar necessities I often read and actually hear accusations that retailers are price-gouging. Well, as a retailer of milk and gas, I can tell you quite honestly that when the prices are going up, it's NOT lining my pockets. In fact, the times of highest retail prices often coincides with my store reaping LESS profit, simply because we don't pass on to the consumer the full price increase, at least not right away, so we make less than we did when prices were more reasonable.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:06 pm

Fleece, us, O Spaceman.

The lunatic is in control... and you don't even need a moon.

Seriously: oil is overrated. Milk is unhealthy for an adult. So are eggs. But, so is everything, if you ask the right person.

Like all things economic - you decide what, and where, you buy. Not the "gougers."

Harry Joy · Post by **Harry Joy** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:23 pm

serleran wrote:
Like all things economic - you decide what, and where, you buy. Not the "gougers."

Here, you might find this helpful:
http://ask.metafilter.com/45432/Bargain ... -of-a-bike

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:33 pm

Just because the news is saying $4.00 per gallon, does not make it so! Freakin' media. It was a slow day yesterday so they jumped on the band wagon for eye-cathing headlines saying $4.00 per gallon.

Don't be part of the flock and subscribe to the mania that the media causes DAILY. Be educated, assess the information and make and informed decision.

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pactmaster · Post by **pactmaster** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:34 pm

Now Harry. I say price-gouge in relation to price-creep. Creep is that extra nickel here and there that nobody notice or complains about. You can't say that a $7 rise in a product all at once (it was a box of frozen chicken bits) isn't past the term "creep".

And I do understand that the merchandisers don't see the profit. The employee I was talking to said he couldn't believe it and that the order to jack prices up came from above because of rising fuel costs (both petrol and heating fuel, the power company said they need a 9% increase so that they can create some extra storage for natural gas).
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mordrene · Post by **mordrene** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:35 pm

people keep forgetting that the US economy is "driven" by the price of gas. whatever you buy, it was shipped on a truck. If gas will be $4, the diesel will be $5. The independent truck driver is being put out pf business and everythin we buy is being raised.

PS, the sky has a hole in it, the main river in china is so polutted that it no longer sustains life--even on the micro level, it wont stop raining in so indiana and I broke my pinkey toe on my daughters toys last night....end of the world.

Hawkwinter · Post by **Hawkwinter** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:40 pm

mordrene wrote:
people keep forgetting that the US economy is "driven" by the price of gas. whatever you buy, it was shipped on a truck. If gas will be $4, the diesel will be $5. The independent truck driver is being put out pf business and everythin we buy is being raised.

PS, the sky has a hole in it, the main river in china is so polutted that it no longer sustains life--even on the micro level, it wont stop raining in so indiana and I broke my pinkey toe on my daughters toys last night....end of the world.

Yeah, sad but true. Its got to raise some eyebrows when NBC states its concerned people may not be able to see Olympic events that are televised from China on "bad smog" days.

I feel for you guys down in So. Indiana...good luck with it all down there.

I'm depressed enough knowing the restaurant tax is now 9% on food. They are taking away my BK fix...dangit!!

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:42 pm

Fiffergrund wrote:
What cracks me up is this:

One of the local gas stations has a "gas sale" every Saturday where they knock 3 cents per gallon off the price. People will line up 10 cars deep or more to save their 3 cents per gallon.

Our local grocery store gives a certain amount of money off depending on what sorts of products one buys. It changes around frequently. But smart shoppers, like my mom, have managed to get up to $1.50 a gallon off the cost of gas.
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angelius · Post by **angelius** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:05 am

It's already 1.06 a L here in Canada
Premium its like 1.30 pratically.
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