Domesday #2 Call for Submissions

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:58 pm

Looking for articles, ideas, and things for the next volume of Domesday, the newsletter of the Castles and Crusades Society. I would like to get some interesting things on economy, language, magic, and personality... you know, like how to take something and make it your own. Like before, we are trying to avoid any kind of legal issues, so please try to keep rules as vague as possible (that is, no direct references to any game system) and remember: this does not have to be about C&C only! Domesday, and the C&CS is open to ALL gamers.

If you're looking to trade items, sell, or buy, please let me know.

If you're looking for gamers, please let me know.

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Wulfgarn · Post by **Wulfgarn** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:46 am

I need to join the C&C Society how do I ?

Also I would like to do an Article on Armor and differing ways of using it in your game.

I also would like to do some art work,

Martin

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:31 pm

To join the Society, send an email to ccsociety shift-2 gmail period com. You will not get a response, but will be added to the Roster.

And, whatever articles you want to write, and whatever art you want to draw.... submit it!

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:29 pm

Seems I have forgotten where to send submissions...

Two options:

1) same address as for joining the society

or

2) my personal address which is easy: screen name {at} gmail period com

The only guidelines are that "rules" be generic * (no direct references to any game system), and that it be complete, or broken into "parts" for continued releases in future issues.

* The exception is if you want to submit a game of your own design, but you realize it would be distributed freely, without compensation. This would be great for things like mini-games and the like.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:38 am

I'm interested I'll see what I can get going in the netherworld I live in now.

BTW has #1 came out yet?
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Gleemax Jr · Post by **Gleemax Jr** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:50 pm

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Society Seneschal · Post by **Society Seneschal** » Sat May 03, 2008 2:51 pm

I have spoken with Steve, and there will be an update to the Society website; when this is complete, the Domesday Tomes will be uploaded to it and made available directly. In the interim, please send submissions so we can continue to produce Domesday Tomes.

seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sat May 03, 2008 3:24 pm

Julian Grimm wrote:
I'm interested I'll see what I can get going in the netherworld I live in now.

BTW has #1 came out yet?

Yes it has - Serl posted a thread and link here:
http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... llordgames
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:19 am

I haven't forgot you. I'm still looking at a few things but most of what I have are monsters and world specific stuff (My homebrew) it all kinda ties in together so I may have to generalize it a bit more.
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seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:26 pm

Bump --

Just a reminder to all to submit stuff to Robert for the next Domesday edition.

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cuchulainkevin · Post by **cuchulainkevin** » Sun May 18, 2008 4:23 pm

Does that include artwork? (Just asking because the art was sent to you before).
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seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sun May 18, 2008 4:39 pm

cuchulainkevin wrote:
Does that include artwork? (Just asking because the art was sent to you before).

Should go to Robert first -- last time was more of a rush when you sent as I was already doing layout, but we have more time (though it will go fast) on #2 - I think he said end of June as deadline, release in July.

Definitely would love to see more of your stuff!! Didn't use the ones that were still connected to DF project, but if you produce any like those that aren't tied to a project already PLEASE submit them!

Edit: P.S. - Are you going to be at LGGC Kevin?
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cuchulainkevin · Post by **cuchulainkevin** » Sun May 18, 2008 5:11 pm

John,

I have some non-DF related stuff that I can forward some time in the the next week.

If you or Robert have any requests to match articles, let me know and I'll be glad to give it a shot. One more week of school and then 10 glorious weeks of summer coming uo for this old teacher. Other than devoting about 1 day a week to some union contract negotiations, I'll have a bunch of free time soon.

Yes, I'll be back at LGGC this year after a 2 year absence. All three days.

Will you be attending?
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seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Sun May 18, 2008 7:44 pm

cuchulainkevin wrote:
Will you be attending?

Yep, all three days - posted stuff about it under the LGGC forum.

Will do on any article-specific request, if we start getting anything - I don't think much (if any) has been submitted yet. I have two things I'm working on, one being a small start to the gestalt world idea, so I will pass that on to you for something specific maybe, but we can definitely touch base at the con.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Mon May 19, 2008 1:56 am

There has been one article submitted, and lots of art. Unfortunately, Domesday is not a treatise on art, nor is it a art platform, though, I guess we may have no choice but to make it one. Not exactly the kind of support I was hoping for from the Society, but perhaps that is my fault - the restriction of "being generic" is too difficult, and the deadlines too soon. People want to write for whatever game they want to write for - the problem, of course, is that there are legal issues with that, even as a "fan-based" derivative. Maybe an extension of the "deadline" is needed - what with major conventions coming up and all.

If anyone wants help with "generic creation," just send in the submission and it can be altered. Authors retain ownership of what they create.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:45 am

serleran wrote:
There has been one article submitted, and lots of art. Unfortunately, Domesday is not a treatise on art, nor is it a art platform, though, I guess we may have no choice but to make it one. Not exactly the kind of support I was hoping for from the Society, but perhaps that is my fault - the restriction of "being generic" is too difficult, and the deadlines too soon. People want to write for whatever game they want to write for - the problem, of course, is that there are legal issues with that, even as a "fan-based" derivative. Maybe an extension of the "deadline" is needed - what with major conventions coming up and all.

If anyone wants help with "generic creation," just send in the submission and it can be altered. Authors retain ownership of what they create.

Well, if you want them, I could submit my campaign journal entry from the Castle Zagyg Forum (Adventure in Garham) and my alternative Weapons and Armour Tables are also up for grabs. I dunno how generic or suitable they are, but I'm willing to support the Domesday Book if its the sort of support you want.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:18 pm

Thank you, Matthew. Can you send it to ccsociety [at] gmail period com? I will then forward it, along with what else I have, to the layout guy.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:47 pm

Sure. What format do you want them in? I have Word 2007, but I can pop them into an earlier version or pdf. Let me know what's good for you.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue May 20, 2008 5:34 pm

Not a pdf, as that can make it more difficult for editing / layout to start, so anything else should be fine. Thanks.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue May 20, 2008 5:46 pm

serleran wrote:
There has been one article submitted, and lots of art. Unfortunately, Domesday is not a treatise on art, nor is it a art platform, though, I guess we may have no choice but to make it one. Not exactly the kind of support I was hoping for from the Society, but perhaps that is my fault - the restriction of "being generic" is too difficult, and the deadlines too soon. People want to write for whatever game they want to write for - the problem, of course, is that there are legal issues with that, even as a "fan-based" derivative. Maybe an extension of the "deadline" is needed - what with major conventions coming up and all.

If anyone wants help with "generic creation," just send in the submission and it can be altered. Authors retain ownership of what they create.

The generic thing is a problem for me. Most things I have are written very specifically for C&C and use C&C rules. Maybe we'll get a way around that but for now it sets me in a very tight corner that i am having problems negotiating.
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Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Tue May 20, 2008 7:55 pm

serleran wrote:
Not a pdf, as that can make it more difficult for editing / layout to start, so anything else should be fine. Thanks.

Okay, no problem. I am working up some inaudibility spells for OSRIC; I imagine I could put together a generic set for C&C too at the same time, if you're interested.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed May 21, 2008 5:28 pm

I now have four submissions. Would anyone care to do a review of some product or other? You don't have to say the thing is good, or awful -- just legitimately review. Maybe people are still looking for other players in their area?

The strength of the Society is its members - you are our backbone, our core.

Is there something I can do to make this easier?

Or, would you, as a Society, prefer this be C&C only? If so, then I will have to take it up with Steve, as that is opposite of our original intentions... we don't want to be "elitists." Anyone can join the Crusade, and not play C&C.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:28 pm

Well, again, I have three reviews of none C&C (but C&C compatable) products doing the rounds on the internet (honestly, I am going to review some C&C soon!), and would be willing to contribute them for consideration. I could even rework them a bit to discuss their exact compatability with C&C.
The Curse of the Witch Head
The Prison of Meneptah
Valtor the Mighty

I don't want to be an issue hogger, though, so feel free to keep them for future issues!
As for C&C only, I think that would be a crazy move for the society, but I can see an argument for 'with regards to C&C'.
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dachda · Post by **dachda** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:49 pm

There is a rule saying submissions shouldn't mention ANY game system right?

Perhaps this is causing problems as many folk's work is game specific and re-writing to make them game neutral may be too much work.

Just a thought. It seems that many on this forum have all sorts of material that would be interesting reads, but were written for specific games.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:06 pm

I dunno, I think there must be some flexibility there, it'd be a bit hard to write a review of a product without mentioning the system at all (though not impossible, those reviews above make minimal reference and those could be excised).

What kind of material requires that you mention the system? I imagine it would have to be stuff like House Rules that rely on the Siege System and stuff like that?
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dachda · Post by **dachda** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:37 pm

Matthew wrote:
What kind of material requires that you mention the system? I imagine it would have to be stuff like House Rules that rely on the Siege System and stuff like that?

Adventures would mention a game system. Certainly House rules will. Other types of things will too - a while ago I wrote up some detailed rules for priests of one of my Gods, based on 3.5e which would require a lot of changes to remove mention of feats/skills awarded to the priests. I haven't gamed in a while, but since getting involved again it seems like most stuff I read online or in magazines are usually intended for specific systems.

But since I have been out of the gaming world for a few years, I may not know what I'm talking about. If so feel free to set me straight. Just seems odd that this group of folks don't have a bunch of stuff to submit, so was searching for some explanation.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:46 pm

dachda wrote:
Adventures would mention a game system. Certainly House rules will. Other types of things will too - a while ago I wrote up some detailed rules for priests of one of my Gods, based on 3.5e which would require a lot of changes to remove mention of feats/skills awarded to the priests. I haven't gamed in a while, but since getting involved again it seems like most stuff I read online or in magazines are usually intended for specific systems.

I think mechanics are the hardest aspect to remove, but the idea here is to avoid legal entanglements. A good adventure or encounter needn't include much in the way of mechanics.

dachda wrote:
But since I have been out of the gaming world for a few years, I may not know what I'm talking about. If so feel free to set me straight. Just seems odd that this group of folks don't have a bunch of stuff to submit, so was searching for some explanation.

As you probably know, writing is time consuming and hard work, I am afraid to say that I find it very unsurprising that there is not a deluge of articles being submitted for free. That said, I think once the ball is rolling and people see what can and cannot be included we should see an increase in submissions.

The way I see it, just submit what you've got and let the editor decide what can and cannot be included. He might ask you to rework some of it (or you might never hear back), but at least you'll have concrete guidelines if he does.
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:47 pm

serleran wrote:
I now have four submissions. Would anyone care to do a review of some product or other? You don't have to say the thing is good, or awful -- just legitimately review. Maybe people are still looking for other players in their area?

The strength of the Society is its members - you are our backbone, our core.

Is there something I can do to make this easier?

Or, would you, as a Society, prefer this be C&C only? If so, then I will have to take it up with Steve, as that is opposite of our original intentions... we don't want to be "elitists." Anyone can join the Crusade, and not play C&C.

Well Serl, some room is starting to free up in my schedule as we get closer to the end of May. I will have at least a review for you within a few days. Since I did the M&T and PHB, I figured the CK Screen would be a great follow up review in terms of products. Some of it is already written from a few weeks back so I don't think it should be too hard to finish it off. I do want to kick off a 'series' of system neutral material and have a few ideas for this but haven't had the time as of yet. I'll see if there's something else I can come up with to submit though.

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Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed May 21, 2008 7:48 pm

Hey, if I had Crusader #8, I'd review it.
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Indigo Rose · Post by **Indigo Rose** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:46 pm

Matthew wrote:
Hey, if I had Crusader #8, I'd review it.

I assure you it is absolutely wonderful and free of defect of any kind!
Except for that one. No, I won't tell you what page it's on.
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