Tervehdys!
Ive been following these boards for few years by now, but I have not been bold enough to make an account for myself. The time has come - enter LordMidnight.
I simply love C&C.
Its elegance, poetic simplicity and how it perfectly captures the essence of a true adventure.
It is the best of both worlds - the old and the new are both entwined into something legendary. C&C is like Andril - the blade that was broken has been reforged!
This game is fun, flexible, great for immersive gaming and the SIEGE-engine both encourages and rewards good roleplaying.
It is not some mere clone or a knock-off of something that has been.
This game has a soul.
The picture you see is taken from Ropecon 2009 by one of the players of my gaming group. The tiefling is also one of my crusaders (and my concept artist).
Long live the Crusade!
Gods save the Troll Lords!
Excelsior!
Yours truly, LordMidnight
P.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropecon
Ropecon has nothing to do with ropes, bondage, or stuff like that.
I am sorry if I have ruined your expectations for something... Kinky.
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Omote
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LordMidnight wrote:
Tervehdys!
Ropecon has nothing to do with ropes, bondage, or stuff like that.
I am sorry if I have ruined your expectations for something... Kinky.
You have disappointed me in the lack of bondage at this convention. Please resubmit Ropecon info to these messageboards with requsite kink.
Your praise of C&C is well written and worthy. Welcome to the Crusade, LordMidnight!
~O
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LordMidnight
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dachda wrote:
Welcome LordMidnight. Great job spreading the crusade in the far northern lands! Has C&C been received well in Finland?
The woman in the background is your concept artist? Curious as to what you mean.
The reception of C&C has been overwhelmingly positive.
When the people realize how the SIEGE-engine works, they usually fall in love with its undeniable beauty.
Fantasy has always been a huge thing around here. From one generation to another the passion for the classic fantasy just refuses to die out. Yes, of course there are all sorts of fads, but the fantasy remains as the main course of your typical Finnish gamer.
You know, in Finland (and in the Nordic countries in general) LARP is a huge thing. It is more visible and and gets more attention from the media than its table-top counterpart. Most of the non-roleplaying population seems to think that all roleplaying is larping.
Finnish LARPs tend to be really rules-lite.
Many of the people who larp actively don't really play traditional RPGs. They might have a negative experience with the heavier rules-sets (D&D 3.5, Rolemaster, etc) so suddenly this side of the hobby seems like a threatening, daunting and complex boardgame with myriad byzantine rules.
Of course there are gamers who love crunch and games with clunkier mechanics etc. But I really think there is a hidden demographic of potential Crusaders among the Finnish roleplayers. I dare even to propose (by my own experience as a CK) that C&C and a Finnish gamer are a match made in Heaven - they just don't know it yet.
The only problem has been the availability of the game itself.
Our FLGS seems to have major problems in getting the books I (and few others) would like to have.
Make no mistake, Finnish RPG Shops have a wide and prestigious selection, but for some reason (though you are able to order the Players Handbook and the Monsters and Treasures through your FLGS) - the C&C ad-ons and the adventures seem to be out of question.
I wonder why? For it seems that we have a wide selection of games that are not that mainstream, so whats up with C&C? Is there some sort of Anti-C&C conspiracy going on?
Well, the truth is out there but the future seems bright. By the way, my CK Screen was bought from Finchley, London. It took far too long for my FLGS to get one, so if the mountain will not come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain.
Leisure Games had a good selection of TLG-products. I have been able to order the books I won't get from my FLGS by buying them from the Internet. I am by no means demeaning the fantastic selection of good games in my FLGS, they just seem to have a problem with this one game.
I have been succesful in proselytizing more and more good people from near and far. My current gaming group consists of me and my five loyal gamers. The demand for my games (no boasting though) is high, so its not hard to acquaint people with the game I love.
The horned lady you see in the picture is (as I said) my concept artist. She has created tons of brilliant artwork for my campaigns and other projects. She shares with me my love for C&C and multiple other gems of geekdom.
LordMidnight wrote:
The reception of C&C has been overwhelmingly positive.
When the people realize how the SIEGE-engine works, they usually fall in love with its undeniable beauty.
Fantasy has always been a huge thing around here. From one generation to another the passion for the classic fantasy just refuses to die out. Yes, of course there are all sorts of fads, but the fantasy remains as the main course of your typical Finnish gamer.
You know, in Finland (and in the Nordic countries in general) LARP is a huge thing. It is more visible and and gets more attention from the media than its table-top counterpart. Most of the non-roleplaying population seems to think that all roleplaying is larping.
Finnish LARPs tend to be really rules-lite.
Many of the people who larp actively don't really play traditional RPGs. They might have a negative experience with the heavier rules-sets (D&D 3.5, Rolemaster, etc) so suddenly this side of the hobby seems like a threatening, daunting and complex boardgame with myriad byzantine rules.
Of course there are gamers who love crunch and games with clunkier mechanics etc. But I really think there is a hidden demographic of potential Crusaders among the Finnish roleplayers. I dare even to propose (by my own experience as a CK) that C&C and a Finnish gamer are a match made in Heaven - they just don't know it yet.
The only problem has been the availability of the game itself.
Our FLGS seems to have major problems in getting the books I (and few others) would like to have.
Make no mistake, Finnish RPG Shops have a wide and prestigious selection, but for some reason (though you are able to order the Players Handbook and the Monsters and Treasures through your FLGS) - the C&C ad-ons and the adventures seem to be out of question.
I wonder why? For it seems that we have a wide selection of games that are not that mainstream, so whats up with C&C? Is there some sort of Anti-C&C conspiracy going on?
Well, the truth is out there but the future seems bright. By the way, my CK Screen was bought from Finchley, London. It took far too long for my FLGS to get one, so if the mountain will not come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain.
Leisure Games had a good selection of TLG-products. I have been able to order the books I won't get from my FLGS by buying them from the Internet. I am by no means demeaning the fantastic selection of good games in my FLGS, they just seem to have a problem with this one game.
I have been succesful in proselytizing more and more good people from near and far. My current gaming group consists of me and my five loyal gamers. The demand for my games (no boasting though) is high, so its not hard to acquaint people with the game I love.
The horned lady you see in the picture is (as I said) my concept artist. She has created tons of brilliant artwork for my campaigns and other projects. She shares with me my love for C&C and multiple other gems of geekdom.
Thanks for the response. I wonder if you might send Steve Chenault a PM and see if he can look into the distribution network for Finland. He might be able to encourage the distributor to get more C&C to your flgs.
Interesting that LARPing is more mainstream in Finland. Here in the US it seems to fit in below pen&paper RPGing in acceptability. Have you seen the documentary "DARKON"? About Larpers in Maryland.
Ahh. so that's what you meant by a concept artist. That is a fantastic luxury to have a personal artist for your campaign creations. I'm jealous. Feel free to post some of your work for us. Or have her post in the Artist's Alley section. It's always fun to see the creative work of others.
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Welcome to the crusade LordMidnight. Always nice to see more interest in C&C.
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The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Lord Aladar
Warden of the Welk Wood
Baron of the Castles & Crusades Society
The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Warden of the Welk Wood
Baron of the Castles & Crusades Society
The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Hail and welcome, LordMidnight.
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AD&D, Amish Dungeons & Dragons.
"Galstaff, ye are in a cornfield, when a moustachioed man approaches. What say ye?"
"I shun him."
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"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
-- E. Gary Gygax
Psalm 73:26
"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
"Rules not understood should have appropriate questions directed to the publisher; disputes with the Dungeon Master are another matter entirely. THE REFEREE IS THE FINAL ARBITER OF ALL AFFAIRS OF HIS OR HER CAMPAIGN."
-- E. Gary Gygax
"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
"Rules not understood should have appropriate questions directed to the publisher; disputes with the Dungeon Master are another matter entirely. THE REFEREE IS THE FINAL ARBITER OF ALL AFFAIRS OF HIS OR HER CAMPAIGN."
-- E. Gary Gygax
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LordMidnight
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Serleran, Omote, dachda, Zudrak, all your welcomes and well-wishes have made me to feel most cozy in these forums, cheers!
American larp-scene kind of baffles me. It seems to be (no offense) rather battle-centric. Surely we have games like that in Finland, but most of the larps here are more about intrigue, horror, or some specific theme. Besides the traditional larps (fantasy, horror, sci-fi, etc.) we have more experimental larps. There are really many genres and many quite innovative (even artistic at best) larps here in Finland.
Your bare-bones Finnish fantasy larp has usually only a tiny amount of combat in it - a duel between bitter rivals, conspiracy unveiled, an attempt of assasination on some important person, etc. It is not (usually) a clash of armies or a mass melee.
The video clips I've seen of American larps seem to be more like a bunch of people whacking each other in colourful suits. They seem more like SCA with some additional roleplaying elements. Most of the Finnish larps that resemble Darkon are specifically battle-orientated. Finnish larps have usually little or nothing to do with fighting. The battles are just a dramatic element, a possibility to solve problems by violence.
Back in the 80's when the whole larp-thing was new for the Finns (and for the Nordic countries in general) there were more of these Darkonish larps. I wonder if it is some sort of natural evolution? And by no means, I am not speaking ill of Darkon or anything larp-related in the US. It seems that the people of Darkon enjoy themselves and have fun, that is the most important thing, wherever and whatever you roleplay.
I personally don't larp that much. It is not my cup of tea, for I have and always will love the table-top roleplaying games. Most of the times when I larp, I have been invited (or forced! ) by some friend of mine to play some specific character. Usually I play orators, wizened old mentors, Shakespearish noblemen or something like that.
I don't consider myself as a larper. Hell no - I am a roleplayer, in the traditional sense of the word. I have to admit that I see (at its worst) larp as a degenerate cousin of something truly great. This is no mud-slinging towards any form of roleplaying! Just to make sure, that nobody thinks my comments as an assault towards larping or anything.
My concept artist will probably post some of her works, when she feels content and confident enough to do so.
dachda wrote:
Interesting that LARPing is more mainstream in Finland. Here in the US it seems to fit in below pen&paper RPGing in acceptability. Have you seen the documentary "DARKON"? About Larpers in Maryland.
Ahh. so that's what you meant by a concept artist. That is a fantastic luxury to have a personal artist for your campaign creations. I'm jealous. Feel free to post some of your work for us. Or have her post in the Artist's Alley section. It's always fun to see the creative work of others.
American larp-scene kind of baffles me. It seems to be (no offense) rather battle-centric. Surely we have games like that in Finland, but most of the larps here are more about intrigue, horror, or some specific theme. Besides the traditional larps (fantasy, horror, sci-fi, etc.) we have more experimental larps. There are really many genres and many quite innovative (even artistic at best) larps here in Finland.
Your bare-bones Finnish fantasy larp has usually only a tiny amount of combat in it - a duel between bitter rivals, conspiracy unveiled, an attempt of assasination on some important person, etc. It is not (usually) a clash of armies or a mass melee.
The video clips I've seen of American larps seem to be more like a bunch of people whacking each other in colourful suits. They seem more like SCA with some additional roleplaying elements. Most of the Finnish larps that resemble Darkon are specifically battle-orientated. Finnish larps have usually little or nothing to do with fighting. The battles are just a dramatic element, a possibility to solve problems by violence.
Back in the 80's when the whole larp-thing was new for the Finns (and for the Nordic countries in general) there were more of these Darkonish larps. I wonder if it is some sort of natural evolution? And by no means, I am not speaking ill of Darkon or anything larp-related in the US. It seems that the people of Darkon enjoy themselves and have fun, that is the most important thing, wherever and whatever you roleplay.
I personally don't larp that much. It is not my cup of tea, for I have and always will love the table-top roleplaying games. Most of the times when I larp, I have been invited (or forced! ) by some friend of mine to play some specific character. Usually I play orators, wizened old mentors, Shakespearish noblemen or something like that.
I don't consider myself as a larper. Hell no - I am a roleplayer, in the traditional sense of the word. I have to admit that I see (at its worst) larp as a degenerate cousin of something truly great. This is no mud-slinging towards any form of roleplaying! Just to make sure, that nobody thinks my comments as an assault towards larping or anything.
My concept artist will probably post some of her works, when she feels content and confident enough to do so.
Welcome to the Crusade, LordMidnight!
Glad to have you with us,
Enjoy the Game!
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"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
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Glad to have you with us,
Enjoy the Game!
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"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte
"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
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Ethan Gilsdorf/Fantasy Freaks and Gaming Geeks author
I have a new book out Sept 1 called ""FANTASY FREAKS AND GAMING GEEKS: An Epic Quest for Reality Among Role Players, Online Gamers, and Other Dwellers of Imaginary Realms"
After playing Dungeons & Dragons religiously in the 1970s and 1980s, I went on to become a poet, teacher, and journalist. In the U.S. and in Paris, I worked as a freelance correspondent, guidebook writer, and film and restaurant reviewer. Now based in Somerville, Massachusetts, my travel, arts, and pop culture stories appear regularly in the New York Times, Boston Globe, and Christian Science Monitor, and have been published in other magazines and newspapers including National Geographic Traveler, Psychology Today, and the Washington Post. I have also been a guest on talk radio as a fantasy and escapism expert. I do not own elf ears, but I have has kept all my old D&D gear, and have been known to host a Lord of the Rings party or two.
I'm coming to Gen Con and DragonCon to sell and promote my book. Hope to see you there!
Ethan Gilsdorf
After playing Dungeons & Dragons religiously in the 1970s and 1980s, I went on to become a poet, teacher, and journalist. In the U.S. and in Paris, I worked as a freelance correspondent, guidebook writer, and film and restaurant reviewer. Now based in Somerville, Massachusetts, my travel, arts, and pop culture stories appear regularly in the New York Times, Boston Globe, and Christian Science Monitor, and have been published in other magazines and newspapers including National Geographic Traveler, Psychology Today, and the Washington Post. I have also been a guest on talk radio as a fantasy and escapism expert. I do not own elf ears, but I have has kept all my old D&D gear, and have been known to host a Lord of the Rings party or two.
I'm coming to Gen Con and DragonCon to sell and promote my book. Hope to see you there!
Ethan Gilsdorf
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Cugel the Clever
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Crusading
Well, I've been a long-time lurker, and only run C&C for a session a couple of years ago (translated some 3.x characters to C&C to show the group how much faster & funner it is ), but recently used DM fiat to reboot a nascent Pathfinder Haunted Highlands campaign to C&C. We'll see where it goes, but I haven't had this much interest in a campaign in ages.
C&C (with the obligatory one-page of house-rules ) scratches all my RPing itches (nostalgic OD&D DIY, FUDGE-like "primes", favorite sweatshirt familiarity); kudos to the Trolls!
C&C (with the obligatory one-page of house-rules ) scratches all my RPing itches (nostalgic OD&D DIY, FUDGE-like "primes", favorite sweatshirt familiarity); kudos to the Trolls!
Good luck!
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Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
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Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
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Omote
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Welcome to the Crusades! May your steel never dull and you players never see behind the screen.
~O
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Screenmonkey
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Tervehdys!
Another one from Finland joins the Crusade. (Hopefully.)
I'm still waiting for my PHB to arrive in mail but for what I have learned by reading the reviews and lurking here it should be perfect for my gaming needs. I haven't gamed in years and I'm hoping to revive my interest.
Why C&C? I have yet to try the system, obviously, but I have high hopes for it. It feels right. Most other games have felt somewhat soulless. But I'm going ahead of myself here. I'll read the PHB first and if it delivers I'll gather a group and start a campaign.
Good gaming!
Another one from Finland joins the Crusade. (Hopefully.)
I'm still waiting for my PHB to arrive in mail but for what I have learned by reading the reviews and lurking here it should be perfect for my gaming needs. I haven't gamed in years and I'm hoping to revive my interest.
Why C&C? I have yet to try the system, obviously, but I have high hopes for it. It feels right. Most other games have felt somewhat soulless. But I'm going ahead of myself here. I'll read the PHB first and if it delivers I'll gather a group and start a campaign.
Good gaming!
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Welcome Screenmonkey! May your Crusader tome arrive quickly and well. All the best.
~O
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>> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <<
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DeadReborn
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Screenmonkey wrote:
Tervehdys!
Another one from Finland joins the Crusade. (Hopefully.)
I'm still waiting for my PHB to arrive in mail but for what I have learned by reading the reviews and lurking here it should be perfect for my gaming needs. I haven't gamed in years and I'm hoping to revive my interest.
Why C&C? I have yet to try the system, obviously, but I have high hopes for it. It feels right. Most other games have felt somewhat soulless. But I'm going ahead of myself here. I'll read the PHB first and if it delivers I'll gather a group and start a campaign.
Good gaming!
Greetings back atcha bro!
Welcome to the Crusade ~ enjoy the game!!
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"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte
"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax
"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth
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CKDad
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Welcome aboard, Screenmonkey!
All I can say about C&C boils down to this: when I first read the PHB, it was like being transported back to 1978 or 79 and reading the AD&D PHB for the very first time. I knew immediately that this was the game I would use to introduce my kids to RPGs.
Enjoy this community - it's one of the most friendly, helpful and flame-free ones about.
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All I can say about C&C boils down to this: when I first read the PHB, it was like being transported back to 1978 or 79 and reading the AD&D PHB for the very first time. I knew immediately that this was the game I would use to introduce my kids to RPGs.
Enjoy this community - it's one of the most friendly, helpful and flame-free ones about.
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"I don't wanna be remembered as the guy who died because he underestimated the threat posed by a monkey."
"I don't wanna be remembered as the guy who died because he underestimated the threat posed by a monkey."
Welcome to the Crusaades one and all! There are good folk here.
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Warden of the Welk Wood
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The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
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"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
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Lord Aladar
Warden of the Welk Wood
Baron of the Castles & Crusades Society
The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Lord Aladar
Warden of the Welk Wood
Baron of the Castles & Crusades Society
The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Warden of the Welk Wood
Baron of the Castles & Crusades Society
The Poster formerly known as Alwyn
Senior Gamer - Member of the Senior RPG Tour
"NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT - At least not in Yu Gi Oh"
http://www.cncsociety.org/
Aladar wrote:
Welcome to the Crusaades one and all! There are good folk here.
Greetings to all and ditto to Aladar's last sentence.
Happy gaming,
Zudrak
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AD&D, Amish Dungeons & Dragons.
"Galstaff, ye are in a cornfield, when a moustachioed man approaches. What say ye?"
"I shun him."
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"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
-- E. Gary Gygax
Psalm 73:26
"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
"Rules not understood should have appropriate questions directed to the publisher; disputes with the Dungeon Master are another matter entirely. THE REFEREE IS THE FINAL ARBITER OF ALL AFFAIRS OF HIS OR HER CAMPAIGN."
-- E. Gary Gygax
"Knowledge, logic, reason, and common sense serve better than a dozen rule books."
"Rules not understood should have appropriate questions directed to the publisher; disputes with the Dungeon Master are another matter entirely. THE REFEREE IS THE FINAL ARBITER OF ALL AFFAIRS OF HIS OR HER CAMPAIGN."
-- E. Gary Gygax
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Sir Osis of Liver
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I remain torn on this whole notion.
There isn't a question in my mind that The Crusader is among the best gaming mags I've read.
Given the direction that the Trolls have taken (a healthy business decision, imho) with re-releasing The Book of Familiars for Pathfinder, they're opening themselves up to a bigger audience. One of my biggest quandaries in which I currently find myself is whether or not I think it would be healthy to incorporate PF material in The Crusader. Is it a matter of saying to them, "Hey, check out this other cool game" or simply accepting that that audience is out there, and not trying to convert them to C&C?
It wouldn't bother me to see PF material showing up in Crusader, but I think the focus needs to remain C&C. That being said, however, perhaps by hyping up The Crusader to that audience, we might draw in more readers for the magazine and, thus, more players of C&C?
I'd be curious to hear what others have to say on this one.
There isn't a question in my mind that The Crusader is among the best gaming mags I've read.
Given the direction that the Trolls have taken (a healthy business decision, imho) with re-releasing The Book of Familiars for Pathfinder, they're opening themselves up to a bigger audience. One of my biggest quandaries in which I currently find myself is whether or not I think it would be healthy to incorporate PF material in The Crusader. Is it a matter of saying to them, "Hey, check out this other cool game" or simply accepting that that audience is out there, and not trying to convert them to C&C?
It wouldn't bother me to see PF material showing up in Crusader, but I think the focus needs to remain C&C. That being said, however, perhaps by hyping up The Crusader to that audience, we might draw in more readers for the magazine and, thus, more players of C&C?
I'd be curious to hear what others have to say on this one.
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I remain torn on this whole notion.
There isn't a question in my mind that The Crusader is among the best gaming mags I've read.
Given the direction that the Trolls have taken (a healthy business decision, imho) with re-releasing The Book of Familiars for Pathfinder, they're opening themselves up to a bigger audience. One of my biggest quandaries in which I currently find myself is whether or not I think it would be healthy to incorporate PF material in The Crusader. Is it a matter of saying to them, "Hey, check out this other cool game" or simply accepting that that audience is out there, and not trying to convert them to C&C?
It wouldn't bother me to see PF material showing up in Crusader, but I think the focus needs to remain C&C. That being said, however, perhaps by hyping up The Crusader to that audience, we might draw in more readers for the magazine and, thus, more players of C&C?
I'd be curious to hear what others have to say on this one.
Given that Pathfinder has its roots in 3e D&D, I don't mind seeing some Crusader space given over. This is especially true if a single article provides both Pathfinder and C&C crunch. I would think something like that would be a simple matter. Just a question of writing up the text and adding in an extra set of rules that are a close cousin to C&C anyway. As past Crusader articles tended to focus on how-to options, interesting concepts and great back stories, I see few problems with this possibility.
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Jackal wrote:
Given that Pathfinder has its roots in 3e D&D, I don't mind seeing some Crusader space given over. This is especially true if a single article provides both Pathfinder and C&C crunch. I would think something like that would be a simple matter. Just a question of writing up the text and adding in an extra set of rules that are a close cousin to C&C anyway. As past Crusader articles tended to focus on how-to options, interesting concepts and great back stories, I see few problems with this possibility.
As long as both games share something in the way of a common ancestor, this is a good point.
I guess I'm thinking that as long as the Trolls are now supporting PF, it would make sense to try including that crowd in the pool of potential subscribers. Until now, the magazine has catered to a distinct niche in the gaming community. With Familiars, I see a great opportunity to open the mag up to a much larger demographic.
Sir Osis of Liver wrote:
As long as both games share something in the way of a common ancestor, this is a good point.
I guess I'm thinking that as long as the Trolls are now supporting PF, it would make sense to try including that crowd in the pool of potential subscribers. Until now, the magazine has catered to a distinct niche in the gaming community. With Familiars, I see a great opportunity to open the mag up to a much larger demographic.
Agreed. This may also be a good persuasive argument to use on my local shop owner. If Pathfinder is selling well I may be able to use this new product to get some other TLG goodies on the shelf.
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I would be all for articles in Crusader on how to convert specific PF mechanics to C&C.
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Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
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The wife and I checked out the two local game stores here in Salem...one had about 50 game books in it period. The other had a bit more of a selection...but only 4th ed, Flames of War, and Warhammer 40k. In discussing the local "scene" with both stores, neither were interested in carrying anything but what they had currently on their shelves. Disappointed to be sure.
However, we did manage to get in touch with a local gaming group. We showed up with our books in hand and by the end of the evening the folks we met were rolling up characters and looking forward to a trip down C&C lane. Who knows...we might get a few more for the crusade before all is said and done since we plan on meeting at the game store when possible. Long live the crusade!
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However, we did manage to get in touch with a local gaming group. We showed up with our books in hand and by the end of the evening the folks we met were rolling up characters and looking forward to a trip down C&C lane. Who knows...we might get a few more for the crusade before all is said and done since we plan on meeting at the game store when possible. Long live the crusade!
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I'm all for spreading the word, but I can't find anyone. There's no gaming store for miles and miles and almost no RPGers. I've been trying for months now to get a game going and I've managed to get a response from only two people to basicly say "Thanks, but no thanks." And, of course, their game of choice is 4e.
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As far as the Pathfinder stuff goes, I look at it this way...
Let's say someone was publishing a 4e magazine and they decided to include a C&C article in each issue. Would you subscribe? I don't think I would. It's not worth the price. I would think a Pathfinder fan would view the Crusader in the same light.
Likewise, if the C&C material in Crusader was reduced to make room for PF material, I would have to decide if it was still worth subscribing to since I was paying for material I don't want.
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Let's say someone was publishing a 4e magazine and they decided to include a C&C article in each issue. Would you subscribe? I don't think I would. It's not worth the price. I would think a Pathfinder fan would view the Crusader in the same light.
Likewise, if the C&C material in Crusader was reduced to make room for PF material, I would have to decide if it was still worth subscribing to since I was paying for material I don't want.
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