Multi Vitamins once again shown to be a waste of money....

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:10 pm

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/healthn ... ivitamins/

Put the money towards more fresh fruits and vegetables.

I have been following this kind of stuff for over a decade, and I think its simply that we cannot absorb manufactured vitamins and minerals, at least not to any effective level. So if you want real vitamin and mineral benefits, get it from sources our bodies have been designed to get it from, real fruits and vegetables. As fresh as you can possibly get them.

Grow little gardens of it if you have to. Any gardener can tell you how your body will react noticeably different from fresh from the garden produce than it will to store bought stuff, let alone frozen/canned stuff.

So I have not only become convinced that "real" sources are important, but the freshness plays a important role as well.

Give it a try, if you can. I am lucky enough, when its in season, that the farmers at my local "Farmers Market" also believe this to be true, so they get up at 4 in the morning to pick the stuff they bring to market that day, and we take it home and eat it that afternoon and evening, since it tastes best then. I think it tastes best then because that is how our body tells us we are getting the best nutritional value from it at that time.

So those of you concerned about effective vitamin and mineral consumption, try and find good sources that are as fresh as you can find. In the mean time stop wasting your money on pills. Buy the genuine sources, your body knows how to utilize it, like it has for thousands of years.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:02 am

Treebore wrote:
Put the money towards more fresh fruits and vegetables.

But that would require me to actually eat fruits and vegetables.

Ick.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:16 am

V8 man, V8.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:47 am

Mixed with a little vodka it's quite enjoyable.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:57 am

I mix mine with pepper and hot sauce. But that works too.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:21 am

That's what I'm wondering about V8, though - it's not processed as badly as multivitamins, but is it a lot better for you than multivitamins? I hope so, because I drink the hell out of it, ut I take a mulitvitamin, too. Looks like that's one less thing I have to spend money on!
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:28 am

I take Flinstones. Not for the actual vitamins though, I just like the taste.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:03 am

Along with the slew of pills I have to take I do take quite a bit of vitamins. Not a multi though. Just the ones for certain suppliments I need. I have noticed a difference since I have been taking them but that is my experience an no one elses.

Oh and V8 Rawks!
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:19 am

Uh...and looking at the article...it is newsworthy that multi-vitamins don't prevent cancer?

I'm not even educated and I could have told them that.

After reading the article I'm more agitated at the author than the multi-vitamin people.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:37 am

There are some vitamins one might want to take. I want the ones from Breath of Fire III.
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Buttmonkey · Post by **Buttmonkey** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:36 pm

V8 is nasty. If I wanted to drink cold tomato soup, I'd just put some tomato soup in the refrigerator and then drink it.

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:35 pm

Buttmonkey wrote:
V8 is nasty. If I wanted to drink cold tomato soup, I'd just put some tomato soup in the refrigerator and then drink it.

Me too.

I think single purpose vitamins are more effective too. Especially Vitamin C and certain B vitamins. I think its mostly because we are taking 100's of times what we need, kind of like the shotgun effect, it throws so much at you something is bound to hit.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:44 pm

Treebore wrote:
Me too.

I think single purpose vitamins are more effective too. Especially Vitamin C and certain B vitamins. I think its mostly because we are taking 100's of times what we need, kind of like the shotgun effect, it throws so much at you something is bound to hit.

Okay, so does a bigger dose of single vitamin equate to being better? I would think that it would have a similar effect, unless it's just a matter of more getting absorbed in the body. (I wasn't trying to be snarky...I just noticed it looks like it may have appeared that way )
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:00 pm

Your body only takes what it needs, and discharges the rest through your urine, of most vitamins and minerals. So if you take enough of something some is bound to get absorbed. Is it enough? I don't know. I just know that when I am getting sick I do much better sucking down real fruits and vegetables than I do pills.

So pills, especially those dedicated to one vitamin or mineral, do seem to have an effect, but I would prefer to have a spinach salad, eat shrimp (for Iodine), eat steak (for Iron), eat oranges or tomato's (for Vitamin C), etc... Plus its critical to have plenty of fiber. If you don't eat enough fiber and develop "problems" (Diverticulitis anyone?), not only will you wish you ate a lot more fiber, you'll probably shoot yourself to put yourself out of misery.
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Technomancer · Post by **Technomancer** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:42 pm

Treebore wrote:
Your body only takes what it needs, and discharges the rest through your urine, of most vitamins and minerals.

I've heard differently, that taking too much of some vitamins can be dangerous, so be careful.
http://www.chemo.net/newpage35.htm
http://www.essortment.com/all/vitaminsoverdos_rzlk.htm
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 06,00.html

Albeit, it seems you'd have to take over 100x the RDA before it starts to hurt you, but still, be careful.

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:58 pm

Technomancer wrote:
I've heard differently, that taking too much of some vitamins can be dangerous, so be careful.
http://www.chemo.net/newpage35.htm
http://www.essortment.com/all/vitaminsoverdos_rzlk.htm
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 06,00.html

Albeit, it seems you'd have to take over 100x the RDA before it starts to hurt you, but still, be careful.

Actually we said the same thing. I did say "most", not "all" vitamins and minerals. Its handy that you pointed out specifics of the ones to be careful about. Heck, if you get down to it too much of any vitamin/mineral can kill you, even vitamin "C". Just that you would have to take so much of those you would have to be injected, or ingest, pure liquid forms of it to get to dangerous levels.

Since we have been talking in the context of "pills" I have been primarily talking with the assumption we are taking those pills and following the dosing directions.
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