FREE! 4E Quickstart Guide and WoTS PDF, updated!

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:36 pm

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4news/20090428
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:09 pm

Interesting... I wonder how long before the start hosting other PDFs (for a nominal and probably monthly charge).

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:10 pm

I hope the quality is better than the majority of pdfs being sold before, of old TSR products.
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:17 pm

serleran wrote:
I hope the quality is better than the majority of pdfs being sold before, of old TSR products.

Since the only thing there are couple of 4th ed stuff, The PDF quality is pretty much perfect. If they do end up doing something with the old TSR stuff themselves, I don't expect much improvement. I imagine it would be hard to justify putting time, effort, and money into improving and re-doing the scans.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:25 pm

Yeah, the PDF quality of these freebies is pretty darn good.
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Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:26 am

cool.

now i can make an informed decision on how much to not like it.

jaguar451 · Post by **jaguar451** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:14 am

Although without character creation, where's the fun?

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:22 am

jaguar451 wrote:
Although without character creation, where's the fun?

Look at the bottom (third) DL.
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jaguar451 · Post by **jaguar451** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:04 am

Ah, page down. Missed that. Thanks.

Edit: Doh! Windows only EXE for character building.....

Ah, well. I can't afford 4e, even if I end up liking it.

Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:04 am

I take it back, I really am not passing judgment until I play a good long game of 4th ed.

I figure it can't be a totally lost cause, industry luminaries designed it an all. and what's that Elvis album called, 50,000 elvis fans can't be wrong?

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:10 am

My only suggestion would be to enjoy it for what it is, not for what you want it to be.

In my opinion,just like 3e, its not really D&D but it is a fun game.

Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:23 pm

DangerDwarf wrote:
My only suggestion would be to enjoy it for what it is, not for what you want it to be.

I like that!

That sounds wise. You could say that for so many things in life.

concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:02 pm

DangerDwarf wrote:
My only suggestion would be to enjoy it for what it is, not for what you want it to be.

QFT!
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:49 pm

I don't remember - did 3e/3.5e do something like this? Offer free introductory rules and module? I'm trying to recall, but I cannot.

This is kind of scary to me, to be honest. I hope this isn't indicative of D&D being in trouble, as I think it would be very bad for the industry if something were to happen to D&D. Hopefully it's just good, ol' fashioned generosity and a "Welcome to D&D" type of thing. If it's the latter, then it's a thoughtful gesture.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:07 pm

There was a "quick tour" of 3e on their website, with an interactive game, but not quite like this. They did, however, have the SRD available which was more than enough to play the game.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:30 pm

For 2nd Edition they did the "quick play" modules too as introductory deals. Had to buy them but they were printed. I'm fairly certain they had downloadable versions of them on their site back then too. I remember going to them and getting additional info on the module setting and I'm fairlt certain the minotaur mage one was available.

concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 pm

Lord Dynel wrote:
I don't remember - did 3e/3.5e do something like this? Offer free introductory rules and module? I'm trying to recall, but I cannot.

This is kind of scary to me, to be honest. I hope this isn't indicative of D&D being in trouble, as I think it would be very bad for the industry if something were to happen to D&D. Hopefully it's just good, ol' fashioned generosity and a "Welcome to D&D" type of thing. If it's the latter, then it's a thoughtful gesture.

They have a ton of earlier edition stuff up as a free PDFs and have released a few of the classic gygaxian modules upgraded to 3.5 as free PDFs in the past.

I wouldn't worry.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:11 pm

Lord Dynel wrote:
I don't remember - did 3e/3.5e do something like this? Offer free introductory rules and module? I'm trying to recall, but I cannot.

This is kind of scary to me, to be honest. I hope this isn't indicative of D&D being in trouble, as I think it would be very bad for the industry if something were to happen to D&D. Hopefully it's just good, ol' fashioned generosity and a "Welcome to D&D" type of thing. If it's the latter, then it's a thoughtful gesture.

Yes, a bunch of free 3E modules, all of which I DLed, but they don't appear to still be available. Th4ey probably are, but I didn't create a bookmark to the page, like I have for Maps a Week, PC portraits, and the old 1E/2E modules they offer for free.

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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:16 pm

serleran wrote:
There was a "quick tour" of 3e on their website, with an interactive game, but not quite like this. They did, however, have the SRD available which was more than enough to play the game.

Agreed. This is a pretty big deal. I've talked to my FLGS and they thought it was a rather interesting move, too.

DangerDwarf wrote:
For 2nd Edition they did the "quick play" modules too as introductory deals. Had to buy them but they were printed. I'm fairly certain they had downloadable versions of them on their site back then too. I remember going to them and getting additional info on the module setting and I'm fairlt certain the minotaur mage one was available.

Yeah, I think I remember those. And yeah, they weren't free. They were pretty neat little modules.

concobar wrote:
They have a ton of earlier edition stuff up as a free PDFs and have released a few of the classic gygaxian modules upgraded to 3.5 as free PDFs in the past.

I wouldn't worry.

Yeah, but it's not really the same thing, IMHO. Having free modules from an edition or two ago is a little different than having a "relatively new" module that is currently retailing. I hope this move brings more people into the 4e fold, as I'm sure their intention is to up the 4e playerbase.

So yeah, I worry a little.

Even though I dislike the system, I don't want to see it fail for two main reasons:

1) I think it will be bad for the industry as a whole if the biggest RPG ever tumbles, and

2) I still hold out hope that 5e will be something I want to spend my money on.

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concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:30 pm

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/oa/20051031a

Link to DL the revised 3.5 version of Tomb of Horrors. it was released back in 2005 but still available.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:36 pm

concobar wrote:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/oa/20051031a

Link to DL the revised 3.5 version of Tomb of Horrors. it was released back in 2005 but still available.

Huh...never knew that was even available. I don't go to the wizards board very much. I actually try to avoid it if at all possible. Thanks for the link.

Was this all they did?
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concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:41 pm

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

Tons of free PDFs. something there should put a smile on your face.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:54 pm

concobar wrote:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

Tons of free PDFs. something there should put a smile on your face.

Yes, I knew about all these (which is what I was referencing in an earlier post). I was actually wondering if they did any other "updated to 3.5" modules.
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concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:00 pm

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/oa/20051207a

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:01 pm

I don't think so. There were some other, fan-made, projects, but not official and probably lost to the cyberether.
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concobar · Post by **concobar** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:10 pm

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d2 ... /20070301a

Return to the Temple of the Frog

I think this may be for D20 modern though
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:17 pm

Interesting.

Return to the Temple of the Frog...for d20 Modern. That's odd.

These are nice. I'll have to DL these before they go away for good.
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