NOW HERE - Killer Gnoll Cave

miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:16 pm

Here's the link for killer GNOLL cave, the 5th in the killer cave series.
I'll be adding andrea and laura's pics as they finish them up.

As before, right click then "save as" to your local drive, then open it up from there.

Here's the print-friendly pdf...
http://24.159.235.164:8000/miller6%20we ... iendly.pdf

And here's the print-friendly zip...
http://24.159.235.164:8000/miller6%20we ... iendly.zip

Enjoy!
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Emryys · Post by **Emryys** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:18 pm

Awesome!
Thanks... I guess these will be a collectors item once you're published
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:49 pm

3 more to go...orcs, bugbears...and TROLLLLS...then comes the clean up and compilation.
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Arioch · Post by **Arioch** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:40 am

very nice indeed

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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:00 am

As long as someone finds use for it, it's well worth the effort.
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StealthSuitStanley · Post by **StealthSuitStanley** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:55 pm

The link isn't working...

later

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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:11 pm

Try it again...should be fine.

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Melan · Post by **Melan** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:59 am

Doesn't work for me either...

Arioch · Post by **Arioch** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:53 am

works for me

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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:34 pm

Melan wrote:
Doesn't work for me either...

Are you right clicking and downloading or opening it in a new window? It's too big to open in the browser and may freeze the window. I'll fix that in the compilation.

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Melan · Post by **Melan** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:28 am

I am right click+saving. Still doesn't work.

miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:36 am

Melan wrote:
I am right click+saving. Still doesn't work.

What browser are you using (i.e. AOL browsers block cable-based sites like mine)? If so and it's being blocked, you'll have to check the browser options/preferences to allow the site. Or are you trying to download from a work computer? If so, the system admin might have restrictions on the company LAN that prevent the download.

Well, to resolve the problem for now, if anyone else wants to post my mods on their site, post the URL as a link in this topic.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:38 am

After 5.71953333 minutes, it finally stopped downloading, and saved. Yay!

miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:49 am

serleran wrote:
After 5.71953333 minutes, it finally stopped downloading, and saved. Yay!

I think it's worth the wait...a few minutes for 4 hours or more of gaming goodness.

Like I said...I'll fix that issue in the compilation. Don't you have some writing to do or something?
Actually, thanks for timing it...good to know for other downloaders.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:30 am

Is my memory just bad or have you learned to make your lay outs look a lot better?

porkuslime · Post by **porkuslime** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:08 pm

Evidently my firewall here is not at all happy with the downloading method you suggest.. I have never been successful with downloading any of your Killer modules.. (and I am using Firefox).

I want to try these.. can I entice you to send copies of all the current mods to me? Or maybe have some site host them for download?

-Porkuslime

Metathiax · Post by **Metathiax** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:20 pm

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Or maybe have some site host them for download?

I do believe he already has done so at this site.

By the way Brian, I would like to say that your "killer series" are all great pieces of work!
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:59 pm

Metathiax wrote:
By the way Brian, I would like to say that your "killer series" are all great pieces of work!

I can't express enough thanks to people like yourself for taking the time to look them over.
Kudos, my friend.

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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:05 pm

Treebore wrote:
Is my memory just bad or have you learned to make your lay outs look a lot better?

Well, "better" is often in the eye of the beholder, but yes, I've been gradually changing the format to conform with TLG standards. You'll see this again with Killer Bugbear Cave. The changes mainly involve more use of size 8 font and changes in stat format and use of bold or italics text. Please let me know which format you find the easiest to follow as a CK.

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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:19 pm

porkuslime wrote:
Evidently my firewall here is not at all happy with the downloading method you suggest.. I have never been successful with downloading any of your Killer modules.. (and I am using Firefox).

I want to try these.. can I entice you to send copies of all the current mods to me? Or maybe have some site host them for download?

-Porkuslime

Still looking for volunteers to host them on non-cable-based sites. I'll keep ya updated. (Will get 'em to ya one way or another).

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:30 am

BTW, I downloaded this last one with Firefox. I have had to use Firefox to reliably visit and post to this board for about a week now. I would guess it is your firewall or other "blocker" software, unless the fact I am on DSL makes cable sites friendlier to me.

angelius · Post by **angelius** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:12 pm

Argh. I can't d/l it still. I've tried everything.
You know what miller, if you want me to host it I can. Of course the problem is getting it to me in the first place :p
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:03 pm

angelius wrote:
Argh. I can't d/l it still. I've tried everything.
You know what miller, if you want me to host it I can. Of course the problem is getting it to me in the first place :p

How big of an attachment can your email server handle?

If it can take it, PM your email address to me or add it to your profile. Is the one at bluesquash a work email or personal?

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angelius · Post by **angelius** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:53 pm

Heya Miller, I managed to d/l it.

PM me to let me know what to do with it.

ps. There's a spelling mistake on page 7, under Area 2's description.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:51 am

Suggestion when running this. Look at the PC's AC and make sure the gnolls can hit 25% of the time. For example, if the parties fighters AC's are 20 make sure to give the gnolls a +5 to hit since it is 25% of 20. Also the chiefteness should hit 50% of the time, so she would hit just fine with 7hd and her spear.

Now if you have the party fight them enmasse you can mysteriously drop the to hit of most or all of them. Personally I upped their HD to 4 with average HP's of 20 and gave them a +1 to hit and damage due to STR.

The party I ran through it numbered 7, 4 Knights levels 5, 5, 3, and 3; a 5th level Bard, a 5th level Paladin, and a 5th level Cleric. They kicked butt.

The snake and the "weeds" were pretty challenging but I recommend upping the kitty cat to 9HD and give it +2 to hit and damage. Only if the party will have the option to rest and heal before facing the Gnolls, though.

Give the Shaman Fireball instead of Haste and Prayer instead of Glyph.

I did this for a party of 7 with good AC's, only the Bard had an AC below 20 and the Paladin had 22 due to armor, dex, and divine aura (+2)

If you have a party of 4 I doubt you'll need to increase much, if anything, but having 7 sure made a difference.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:25 pm

Another killer dungeon! Now I just have to figure out how to fit them in my game!
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:06 pm

Treebore wrote:
Suggestion when running this. Look at the PC's AC and make sure the gnolls can hit 25% of the time. For example, if the parties fighters AC's are 20 make sure to give the gnolls a +5 to hit since it is 25% of 20. Also the chiefteness should hit 50% of the time, so she would hit just fine with 7hd and her spear.

Now if you have the party fight them enmasse you can mysteriously drop the to hit of most or all of them. Personally I upped their HD to 4 with average HP's of 20 and gave them a +1 to hit and damage due to STR.

The party I ran through it numbered 7, 4 Knights levels 5, 5, 3, and 3; a 5th level Bard, a 5th level Paladin, and a 5th level Cleric. They kicked butt.

The snake and the "weeds" were pretty challenging but I recommend upping the kitty cat to 9HD and give it +2 to hit and damage. Only if the party will have the option to rest and heal before facing the Gnolls, though.

Give the Shaman Fireball instead of Haste and Prayer instead of Glyph.

I did this for a party of 7 with good AC's, only the Bard had an AC below 20 and the Paladin had 22 due to armor, dex, and divine aura (+2)

If you have a party of 4 I doubt you'll need to increase much, if anything, but having 7 sure made a difference.

All good suggestions, Treebore. A group of 7 is a big group and worse when they have high ACs. Kudos for exercising your adaptibility as a CK.

In general, you got it right, the encounters on the way up to the lair ARE more difficult than the gnolls themselves. Much of the difficulty of the gnolls hinges on whether or not they fall victim to the shaman's smoke early in the adventure. I mentioned in the mod that the gnolls don't want to swarm the party because it made them vulnerable to area of effect spells. However, if a swarm should occur (i.e. once the chieftain blows her whistle), here's a couple other suggestions to increase the difficulty...

1. When more than one foe faces a single character, give each foe +1 to hit for each additional foe beyond the first.

2. "Monkey pile" to immobilize an intruder.

3. Roll to hit ac 10 (plus dex and magical bonuses) to grab an opponent's weapon, shield, helmet, etc., then make a strength roll to pry it away from them (with difficulty equal to the character's strength score).

4. Run off with characters items to draw stragglers away from the main group of characters.

5. Have a couple gnolls combine their strength to toss a party member out of the cave.

As you may guess, players dread taking on large groups when I'm the CK.
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:21 pm

One question, treebore...Did your players have a good time/find the module interesting? I strive to make each mod a fun experience with unique settings and memorable encounters.
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sieg · Post by **sieg** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:11 pm

Hey Brian,

I've tried going to the link on your sig line and I'm getting 404. What up?
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miller6 · Post by **miller6** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:57 pm

Okay, I restored my settings and it should work again.

(Been having issues with my webserver ever since I installed zone alarm, even though it's shut down. Have to check into it more. Could be damage from spyware too.)

Should there be any more problems, angelius has been kind enough to host that one on his site too.

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