Tell me about the 'new' barbarian

vivsavage · Post by **vivsavage** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:44 am

I won't be getting the new PHB until the hardcover is released this month. Just wondering what the new barbarian is like. Do they have any survival/wilderness skills?

ssfsx17 · Post by **ssfsx17** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:51 am

Yes. The ability named Deerstalker is like a "lite" version of a lot of Ranger abilities rolled into one.
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dachda · Post by **dachda** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:54 am

but can only forage, for himself, not the whole party like ranger or druid.
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Frost · Post by **Frost** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:51 am

I'll try to provide more details later, but I think it's one of the best write-ups for the barbarian class ever. TLG really got captured what it means to be a "barbarian" and what sets it apart from other classes.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:31 pm

*tips hat to new barbarian*

Yes, the new barbarian is a powerful class that has a lot of abilities within the C&C game. When you get your new HB PHB, you will not be dissappointed.

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vivsavage · Post by **vivsavage** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:39 pm

Omote wrote:
*tips hat to new barbarian*

Yes, the new barbarian is a powerful class that has a lot of abilities within the C&C game. When you get your new HB PHB, you will not be dissappointed.

Is the barbarian more of a Conan-type or a historical celtic/saxon warrior type?

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:45 pm

It is not tied to a specific culture, per se, though I felt it was more Native American than universal barbarian -- certainly not Conan, as only Conan is Conan.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:42 pm

Abilities:

Combat Sense

Deerstalker

Intimidate

Primeval Instincts

Whirlwind Attack

Primeval Will

Ancestral Calling

and I agree this is the best write up ever, because this is the first time, since first appearing in Dragon mag and UA, that I felt a desire to play one.
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lobocastle · Post by **lobocastle** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:18 pm

Treebore,

That looks interesting, I am waiting to get the hard cover PHB 4th ed.

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Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:52 pm

I agree. Looks pretty interesting. Look forward to getting my PHB and being able to read up on it in full.
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Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:33 pm

Yeah, it's SWEET! I think Ancestral Calling IMO may be overpowered, but then again, they get it at 10th level when characters are supposed to be powerful.

One thing I noticed was you have to somewhat rethink hit points with some of the new powers, but I don't think I'd change anything or could have done it better.

It really looks very frickin' sweet! and great illustration too!

Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:35 pm

[quote="Relaxo"]Yeah, it's SWEET! I think Ancestral Calling IMO may be overpowered, but then again, they get it at 10th level when characters are supposed to be powerful.

One thing I noticed was you have to somewhat rethink hit points with some of the new powers, but I don't think I'd change anything or could have done it better.

It really looks very frickin' sweet! and great illustration too![/quote]

You enjoy chumming the waters so to speak don't you.
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Malperion · Post by **Malperion** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:05 pm

I got to play the new Barbarian class during the C&C tournament at GenCon this year. The ability I really thought was the bomb was Intimidate. It's both a great enemy debuff and roleplaying opportunity rolled into one! Definitely a much more well-rounded class with much to offer a party.

Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:12 am

Go0gleplex wrote:
You enjoy chumming the waters so to speak don't you.

What I do?

It's the only class that heals like that. dare I say, it's like a 4e healing surge... it is different... different = rethinking. I didn't say bad.

for me I was like, huh? gain HP? and maybe a day later, I read it again and now I like it, but I dunno.

Not saying it's bad or anything, but you have to admit it's a new mechanic for the game.

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Intimidate. It's both a great enemy debuff and roleplaying opportunity rolled into one!

Very true! And true to the spirit of Barbarians, IMO. I love the line in the write up (fluff) that says something like, "To barbarians, to be 'civilized' is to be weak."

Frost · Post by **Frost** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:32 am

If you want a real Conan the Barbarian type barbarian, check out James Mishsler's stuff. THe new C&C provides a great barbarian class that really fits the meaning of "barbarian."
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