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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:34 pm

Is it elfin or elvin? or elven?

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:41 pm

Your choice. Elfin is more traditional. Elven is Tolkienesque and the one that the majority of the readership will recognize.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:55 pm

Go with the terminology used in the PHB/M&T to retain consistancy. That's how I see it. You can use elfin in fluff or setting products IMO.

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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:59 pm

I think Elfin refers to like pixies and Christmas Elves.

I think.
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mordrene · Post by **mordrene** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:03 pm

which one makes cookies.....MMMMM cookies.

moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:10 pm

Elven would be the standard that seems to have been set in other gaming material and supplements.

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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:15 pm

mordrene wrote:
which one makes cookies.....MMMMM cookies.

Alright this busted me up!

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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:21 pm

I would agree with Serl on this one.
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James M. Ward · Post by **James M. Ward** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:45 pm

My buddy Steve doesn't ever take the straight path.

Elven has become the standard.

Elfin is older and used less.

The CRUSADER magazine parts I write use Elven.

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Frost · Post by **Frost** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:48 pm

"Elven" seems to be the gaming standard.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:57 pm

Troll Lord wrote:
Is it elfin or elvin? or elven?

Steve

Elfin is British usage

Elvin is not a word, it doesn't exist.

Elven is more standard American usage.
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Frost · Post by **Frost** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:05 pm

Omote wrote:
Go with the terminology used in the PHB/M&T to retain consistancy. That's how I see it. You can use elfin in fluff or setting products IMO.

~O

Agreed. It's "elven" in the other C&C material.
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James M. Ward · Post by **James M. Ward** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:27 pm

. . .Elvin is not a word, it doesn't exist. . .

I had to laugh at this. It is a word and it does exist because it appears in this forum. Also if a game company decides to use it as an adjective for their elves, it also works and they have in the past. I think it was a West Coast company in the '70s I want to say. We laughed about it at TSR at the time.

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:28 pm

Elvin... isn't that plural of multiple Elvis' or something?
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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:10 pm

Omote wrote:
Elvin... isn't that plural of multiple Elvis' or something?
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anglefish · Post by **anglefish** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:45 pm

For my two cents, stick to the current usage.

I've only seen "Elfin" when someone want to evoke a more mythical feel where the fey folk may not even be a PC race, but a force of nature.

... Oh for my Pendragon days, when PCs ran away from magic instead of divvying it up like shopping list.

DaveyB · Post by **DaveyB** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:49 pm

Gotta' throw in a vote for Elven, although I'm not adverse to Elfin either. Still, I think I would stick with the prevailing theme and go with "Elven".

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:44 pm

I'd have to go with Elven as well. Elfin definately makes me think of that elf who wanted to be a dentist. Legolas has NOTHING on Hermie! Come to think of it, we're only months away from my annual viewing of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:02 pm

But what if the NPC I'm writing about is a really hot elf chick?

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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:03 pm

Omote wrote:
Go with the terminology used in the PHB/M&T to retain consistancy.

~O

Agreed.

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tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:17 pm

Hot female would be elfin. Right you are, Stephen. We're gamers. Do you expect us to think about hot chicks when the ckg is right around the corner?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:17 pm

Troll Lord wrote:
But what if the NPC I'm writing about is a really hot elf chick?

Steve

Then I hope the esteemed Mr Bradley does the NPC art/portrait, and then I glimpse the model he uses when I move back to Ok!

Other than that I use elven as a normal "PC" elf and Elfin as a much more "fey" type elf, but that's just me
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tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:26 pm

If Mr. Bradley does the portrait, it'll be the elfin backside all the way! Just look at his work in Of Gods and Monsters.

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:59 pm

Elven. There is no other way.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:02 am

Make it eleven. That is totally the best bet.
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yell0w_lantern · Post by **yell0w_lantern** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:21 am

Mine goes up to eleven.

tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:45 am

Spinal Tap reference has just entered the thread.

Coleston the Cavalier · Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:15 am

*Stands tall (5'5" on toes)*

I asked Gary this question when I was working on one of his LA projects.

His answer was, "elven."
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Count Zero · Post by **Count Zero** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:16 am

The language would be Elvish. Elven is an adjective.

Sir Ironside · Post by **Sir Ironside** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:23 am

I was always partial to Elfin, but these days it all Elf, Elves, Elven etc. I don't get the drift away from Elf, but hey the English language is so crazy.
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