Dec 7

AGNKim · Post by **AGNKim** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:25 pm

I was stationed in Pearl Harbor and have stood in the memorial, looking down at the USS Arizona. You can still see it just below the surface. There are those oil-induced rainbow films on the surface of the water from the oil that still seeps up from the engine rooms. The men that died on her that day are still buried with her. It may not be Veteran's Day, but isn't everyday veteran's day to some extent?

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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:29 pm

Somewhere in all that mess is my great-uncle. He was awarded the Purple Heart due to wounds during that attack. Unfortunately, he died before I knew about it, so I was never able to talk to him about it.

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:35 pm

Remembered. Always.

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Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:32 pm

I have three cousins still interred within the memorial and have had the privilege of visiting it in person 27 years ago. A dark day in our nation's history. Both for what it signified and started...and what came after.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:49 pm

My Grandfathers were fortunate enough not to be there that day, but they were both fortunate enough to make it through the whole Pacific campaign.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:27 pm

An awful today to be remembered forever.

It occurs to me that I either don't remember or didn't know why the decision was made to not recover/lift the ship out of the water. Was it not feasible or did the military or president make the choice?
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Aladar · Post by **Aladar** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:08 pm

A solemn salute for those who were lost that day.
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Eisenmann · Post by **Eisenmann** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:20 am

Both of my grandfathers as well went through the Pacific Campaign. My mom's dad went from Australia to New Guinea to Leyte and on all the way to right off of Okinawa. He was a member of Jimmy Doolittle's bomb group. He passed away just this past Friday at the age of 92.

My dad's dad was at the battles of Tarawa and Saipan. Artillery. Before the war he was a sergeant in the Army - cavalry. Horses and all. The future movie actor Forrest Tucker was a subordinate under my grandfather who caught him shirking his duty. One day while we were watching TV my grandpap said to me, "You see that guy?", pointing out Tucker. He continued, "He's not that tough in real life." LOL

I thank God for all who served.

Rhuvein, the focus at the time was to raise the ships that were able to be made seaworthy again. The raising of the battleships involved patching the holes and filling hulls with pumped in air. The hole in the Arizona is relatively massive.

Sir Osis of Liver · Post by **Sir Osis of Liver** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:04 am

Eisenmann wrote:
Both of my grandfathers as well went through the Pacific Campaign. My mom's dad went from Australia to New Guinea to Leyte and on all the way to right off of Okinawa. He was a member of Jimmy Doolittle's bomb group. He passed away just this past Friday at the age of 92.

My dad's dad was at the battles of Tarawa and Saipan. Artillery. Before the war he was a sergeant in the Army - cavalry. Horses and all. The future movie actor Forrest Tucker was a subordinate under my grandfather who caught him shirking his duty. One day while we were watching TV my grandpap said to me, "You see that guy?", pointing out Tucker. He continued, "He's not that tough in real life." LOL

I thank God for all who served.

Rhuvein, the focus at the time was to raise the ships that were able to be made seaworthy again. The raising of the battleships involved patching the holes and filling hulls with pumped in air. The hole in the Arizona is relatively massive.

Sounds like both your grandfathers were real characters with real character. My condolences on your recent loss. My grandpa died before I ever got the chance to talk to him about his WWII days. My hat's off to all who served. I just got to send one off a couple of weeks ago with Butterfield's Lullaby. It's tough enough to play, but even harder to have to play for a friend.

As for the Arizona, I thought the conscious decision was made to leave her down there. As I remember it, the whole bow of the boat was blown off when the forward magazine went up. Maybe I'm mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time.

Drew · Post by **Drew** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:50 am

A date which will live in infamy. Never forget.

angelius · Post by **angelius** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:14 pm

Eternally grateful to the valiant soldiers that fought in the Pacific as my family were civilians there in WWII - to hear them tell the tales, it was not fun. But eternally grateful the Allies won the war.
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tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:25 am

One of my Grandmother's(almost 80) relatives was apart of a bomber crew. Lost his life in the Pacific theater. Not in Pearl Harbor, however.

Interesting story about Forest Tucker. Definately watched my share of F-Troop reruns in the 1970's.

Back to point...we're losing so many WWII vets each day. It's sad to see them go. The time is also coming for our Korean vets, and many of the Nam vets are at least in their late 50's-early 60's. My thoughts are with them all. Not to mention our men and women presently serving throughout the world.