Harvesters questions omissions

[skullsplittershen]

First, I want to say I love Harvesters! Unfortunately it has a lot of omissions and or missing information. I understand this sort of thing happens when deadlines are involved having been an editor of a literary arts quarterly in college.

Some of the problems:

Movement and scale is vague at best and not clearly defined. Badgers don't even have a movement rate listed! A ground scale of one inch equal to five feet ala C&C for combat works well for human sized beings, but what about mice? This really needs to be cleared up for the smaller sized critters, and be made consistent throughout the rules.

Some of the class abilities need to be defined because they just are not there! I really wish the text would get rid of the C&C references all together. This will probably confuse young gamers to no end.

Horses or horse like critters are odd when you consider a badger is bigger than a horse for a mouse! More like a war elephant really..... I like Redwall's solution- thry don't use them! Personal choice, b ut it does make sense.

Anyhow just some nit-picking. Oh by the way check out Splintered Light miniatures website. They have some awesome 15mm scale figs that would be wonderful for Harvesters!

[Deogolf]

skullsplittershen wrote:
First, I want to say I love Harvesters! Unfortunately it has a lot of omissions and or missing information. I understand this sort of thing happens when deadlines are involved having been an editor of a literary arts quarterly in college.

Some of the problems:

Movement and scale is vague at best and not clearly defined. Badgers don't even have a movement rate listed! A ground scale of one inch equal to five feet ala C&C for combat works well for human sized beings, but what about mice? This really needs to be cleared up for the smaller sized critters, and be made consistent throughout the rules.

Some of the class abilities need to be defined because they just are not there! I really wish the text would get rid of the C&C references all together. This will probably confuse young gamers to no end.

Horses or horse like critters are odd when you consider a badger is bigger than a horse for a mouse! More like a war elephant really..... I like Redwall's solution- thry don't use them! Personal choice, b ut it does make sense.

Anyhow just some nit-picking. Oh by the way check out Splintered Light miniatures website. They have some awesome 15mm scale figs that would be wonderful for Harvesters!

Hey SkullSplitter!

Thanks for liking the game! Yes, it seems we did miss a few "minor" items. Movement rates were to be similar to humans (squirrels) and halflings (mice). The movement rate for badgers was 9 ft.

The C&C stuff was to be used as cross reference if people wanted to add it in to their regular C&C game. The CK can change things to fit their game.

As of right now, there are no horses in the game. Steve or Peter, or somebody, snuck the miniature prehistoric horse in there somewhere unknownst to me, little buggers! As you mentioned, I kept them out with a nod towards Redwall. But, I do plan on having some form of riding beast in the next adventure - it will make sense and not be too outrageous.

The minis from Splintered Light are pretty darn cool! I bought both the boxed sets of Goodies vs. Baddies. I just wish they had been 25mm. I've primed a few and hopefully will be able to sit down and paint them soon, just to see how tough it will be. My eyesight is still pretty good, even for the little minis. I'll be picking up some of the smaller sets over the next few months!
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[skullsplittershen]

So 6 feet is 30 in human terms, 3 feet is 15, and 9 feet is 45 feet, if I grok what you said.

Pesky horses indeed! I noticed you have a more North American animal base for critters rather than British or European. Not a complaint, just found it refreshing. Some ideal bad guys would be bobcats and lynxes, and coyotes should be equally scary! I'm looking forward to your next release.

[Deogolf]

skullsplittershen wrote:
So 6 feet is 30 in human terms, 3 feet is 15, and 9 feet is 45 feet, if I grok what you said.

Pesky horses indeed! I noticed you have a more North American animal base for critters rather than British or European. Not a complaint, just found it refreshing. Some ideal bad guys would be bobcats and lynxes, and coyotes should be equally scary! I'm looking forward to your next release.

Well, I do live in Wisconsin, so I'm well versed with North American critters. Funny you should mention bobcats, lynxes, and coyotes - they're next on the list for the next adventure that I'm working on!
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[finarvyn]

skullsplittershen wrote:
So 6 feet is 30 in human terms, 3 feet is 15, and 9 feet is 45 feet, if I grok what you said.

Now this is a statement that makes my head hurt.
Perhaps we need a new unit for anamorphic critters. Perhaps the "paw" rather than the "foot"?

So a 6-foot human would be 30-paws tall. Is that what I read? As in, "you encounter a giant holding a rake, and he's 30 paws tall!"
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[Tadhg]

finarvyn wrote:
Now this is a statement that makes my head hurt.
Perhaps we need a new unit for anamorphic critters. Perhaps the "paw" rather than the "foot"?

So a 6-foot human would be 30-paws tall. Is that what I read? As in, "you encounter a giant holding a rake, and he's 30 paws tall!"

Nicely said!
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[skullsplittershen]

Didn't mean to cause headaches. Like the paws idea.... What I meant is that if you are using miniatures or counters, one inch would normally be five feet in scale on a map ruled off in one inch squares according to C&C. In Harvesters the same one inch square would be one foot, so a move ment of 6 feet becomes 6 inches.

[Deogolf]

Well, since I don't have humans or humanoids in my game, I just use the same system. Doesn't really cause any confusion. We just used human rates for the larger critters and halfling for the mice. Seems to work just fine.

Otherwise, just wing it and enjoy it!
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